How can I bend an event? a note bend - say a bass octave slide downward? Is that possible?
Your KB37 have pitch bend wheel? Or are you dropping notes on a piano roll? If it’s the piano roll in “R’s” MIDI editor, there are “Continuous Controller” (CC) “lanes” at the bottom. Select “Pitch Bend” from the drop down list on a lane and draw in your bend. From the center of the lane UP bends up and center line DOWN obviously bends down. I have not used pith bend enough to be very knowledgeable PW. But I know it’s in there and a few quickie experiments show it works…
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Thanx D - I’m drawing for now - I just heard a nice slide in my head after I recorded the midi track.
open the piano roll - look at the bottom lefthand side there is a drop down box (presently set to velocity) click in the box and select CONTROLLER - another dropdown will open scroll to PITCH BEND - now you can draw the pitch you want under the notes (not in the piano roll) in the special track at the bottom track area -
M.R.
START AGAIN !! - PITCH BEND is the botton selection in the VELOCITY BOX -
selecting CONTROLLER will bring up another set of options - so its worth looking in there - you will have to find a MIDI site that gives a listing of what all the 127 controllers do - OR look in the back of your TONEPORT manual -
M.R.
BACK AGAIN !! -
to give more controll over the pitch bend then keep ZOOMING in on the note(s) you want to bend, the more you zoom in the more bend instructions you can add -
M.R.
Just get a Les Paul and “Bend It Like Yaz”!
Remember to ALWAYS bend back to zero. Many synths (older soundcards synsths, external hardware, some non-vst softsynths, softsynths that so up as playback devices such as the MS Synth) will remember the last bend value, even session to session and after rebooting the machine. I don’t think this is an issue with VST synths, but I don’t want to say never.
For example, if you bend a not on channel 2 down a couple of steps and leave it there, then the next time you play anything on channel 2 it will be bent down a couple of steps. Even exiting the app and playing a MIDI file in another app might still have channel 2 bent down.
There are events to reset values, but whether on not they work as expected is on a synth by synth basis.
Rules of thumb: Never assume the state of a MIDI synth. Always setup the state the way you want it at the beginning of MIDI playback. Always return the state to the default state at the end of playback. Be nice to the next guy playing a MIDI file.
All that said, most folks will never have a problem with this. Problem is, when it happens you’ll say loudly WTF more than a few times, and there will be almost no clue what the deal is.
I have seen this over and over when playing MIDI files downloaded from the internet through classic soundcards synths (SoundBlaster, etc). Most files don’t do any setup nor resetting.
I got the pitch edit cc but changing pitch - or sliding through the length of a note - ? - I don’t get it…
Just a simple bass line slide - know what I mean? I’ll have more time later - maybe I’ll figure it out. I would think it would be as simple as drawing a line from note ‘a’ to note ‘b’ but NO!
Yep phoo I learned last night that a pitch change anywhere sets pitch throughout from that point, until it’s set back.
It takes a series of individual events, going from one value to another. That’s the way all MIDI works. Some MIDI editors will allow drawing lines, then they fill in the individual events for you. It’s nice when they do, but there is a measure of control you loose in the process. There can be a LOT of events in a series. Sometimes you need a lot to be smooth, but sometimes a few or even one does the trick.
Honestly Poppa, I believe it is easier to PLAY the note/bend in and record it. Trouble for me is, the lousy MIDI KB I have, doesn’t HAVE a pitch bend wheel…
I need to get the Axiom ordered…
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Thanks guys - I’ll get it one way or’nuther
GLIDE BETWEEN NOTES - EASY IT AINT -
open piano roll
insert note -
TOOLBAR -TRACK - MIDI - MIDI events list -
in the events list you will see the note you have just inserted -
at the bottom of the list select PLACE EVENT - a popup box opens -
in box select CONTROLER 64 (SUSTAIN) - change VALUE to 127 -
this switchs SUSTAIN ON -
now select PITCH BAND from the lower lefthand side of the PIANO
ROLL -
use ZOOM to add more area under the inserted note to allow you to DRAW in the PITCH BEND in bottom area -
insert new note -
if new note is higher than the other draw pitch bend up to the
right - if lower start high then draw to zero -
pitch will now GLIDE between notes -
you now have to TURN controller 64 OFF after the second note has been added or that note will continue for ever - at the bottom of the
event list select PLACE EVENT - select CONTROLER 64 (SUSTAIN) - change VALUE to 0 - (OFF)
the event list should look something like this -
NOTE -
CONTROLER 64 value 127 (SUSTAIN ON)
PITCH BEND -
PITCH BEND -
PITCH BEND -
PITCH BEND -
PITCH BEND -
PITCH BEND -
PITCH BEND -
PITCH BEND -
PITCH BEND -
NOTE -
CONTROLLER 64 value to 0 (SUSTAIN OFF)
NOTE -
you have to do this for every glide -
M.R.
Bend it too much and you’ll break it. 
to bend or not to bend, that is the question ?
M.R.
…of course I wrote a tool that would do all that for Bars & Pipes…
Select Start and End values with sliders.
Select frequency of events with a slider (ticks between events)
Highlight a range in the piano roll.
Apply.
Poof, there they be.
…and I also wrote a Thin tool that would intelligently get rid of unnecessary events – it would also work in real time during playback…
(a few of the reasons I hate all other MIDI editors – there are many others)
(I mention theses as suggestions for the new feature list)
Sounds like we need to get the code to you for n-Track and let you ‘have at it’ ! In your spare time and all…
Bars & Pipes was written upfront so anyone could add “Tools and Accessories” to do this stuff. The source to do it was as sold as an add-on (“Rules For Tools”).
WOW…Looks at this blast from the past: http://www.hansfaust.de/barsnpipes/rft/main.html