Quote: (TomS @ Jul. 06 2011, 9:36 AM)
Just through headphones and the laptop.
MS Media player?
Just through headphones and the laptop.
MS Media player?
I’m listening again, now. I need new ears.
Mark. I hope you don’t mind but I’ve just run the first track through more comp’ whilst playing with more and less extreme rates just to make it more obvious to me - I’m none the wiser in this case.
Tom. Is comp’ a no-no full stop?
Quote: (TonyR @ Jul. 06 2011, 10:10 AM)
Mark. I hope you don't mind but I've just run the first track through more comp' whilst playing with more and less extreme rates just to make it more obvious to me - I'm none the wiser in this case.
Yeah, no problem. Happy to hear what you discover. I just want to get this as right as I can (without spending more time than I should!!).
Quote: (Mark A @ Jul. 05 2011, 2:59 PM)
Quote: (TomS @ Jul. 06 2011, 9:36 AM)
Just through headphones and the laptop.
MS Media player?
Windoze media player?
Tony -- in classical recording compression is almost entirely a no-no. It might be the case that Mark's clients want to hear it this way, however. Plus, the background noise is so extreme (as these things go) and the performance has enough clams that it might be that we've already spent too much time on it anyway. My criticism was minor, and probably most people would not hear it -- I guess the evidence is here, since you guys don't hear it.
So...Mark...leave it as it is! 
Thanks Tom,
The reason I ask about what media player you use is that I’ve been caught out by Windows Media Player before. It has what it calls “WOW SRS” effects built in - basically EQ and compression to make things sound “better”.
I had a mix a few years ago that was really messed up by Media Player’s compression. Sounded fine on everything else though. Never really did find out why but disengage the effects and all was good.
Anyway, I was just wondering if you accidently had the effects engaged (I’m pretty sure with version that was around with XP it was turned on by default. Not so sure about later versions). Just thinking. That’s all. 
Quote: (TomS @ Jul. 05 2011, 8:05 PM)
My criticism was minor, and probably most people would not hear it.
It's cool, Tom. I don't think it's an over-indulgence. Compression is a mighty topic and a tool which takes some handling and can make or break a sound (I abuse it badly). You're absolutely correct, Tom, Mark has done a great job under very difficult circumstances. Pleasing classical purist audiophiles is quite a specialist field;-)
I've listened to Marks first posted so many times that I've lost all sense of objectivity - I even tried to Convolute some room back in to it. I've lost the plot.
The plot? Mean Mr. Mustard in the Library with the Compressor.
Quote: (TomS @ Jul. 07 2011, 12:07 PM)
The plot?
Mean Mr. Mustard in the Library with the Compressor.
I love it that people are passionate about things. I love the idea that there are people who would rather hear their music with compression. And I love that there are people that want to promote that and discuss it. It's people's passion that fuels innovation and creativity... and my learning. I'm actually really pleased that this was pointed out, otherwise how am I to know?
Anyway, apart from all the other work I have to do, I have three concerts worth of audio and video to edit, so I've decided to leave the classical thing as is.... and maybe sometime soon I'll get some time to work on my own stuff!!! (But it is great having a hobby and job that overlap. Oh yes).
That is cool Mark. “find a job you love - and you’ll never have to work again”. So true.