I've bugged you enough...

here’s a song. Let me know what you think.

http://soundclick.com/harphunt

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Folks ever compare your voice to the guy from REM? I hate it when people tell me I “sound like X” (well, X would be cool since I’m a huge John Doe fan).

I’d bring the vocal up a bit.

Anyway, that’s a great song. Exactly the kind of stuff I like. Tell us about how you recorded it.

Actually I am Michael Stipe. The band hasn’t been doing much and I thought I’d try home recording… ha ha.

Recorded in the kids playroom all by me and my Boss rp550, vamp, mxl 990, berringer mixer, squier bass (direct), acoustics (double tracked because the tone sucked. gotta work on tone), my capoed tele., and mixed on my Altec computer speakers. Kind of a funny sight with stuffed animals placed strategically for sound absorbtion and jedi light sabers poking up all around!

Done on my laptop with the same Indigo card you have IIRC. I’ve been having compatability issues with that card and n-track, so the song got finished in another program I’ve been A/Bing. Not given up on N though.

Thanks for the listen and kind words.

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Bah - you’re not Michael Stipe, you’re Peter Buck :laugh:

I like the song :) I’d leave the main voice alone but lower the backup vox a bit.

Drum machines are drum machines but try this:
Record the hihat at 1/2 the tempo, then clone & offset so that the two tracks combined give you a ‘full’ hihat track.
Then experiment with volume and (even effects) on the cloned & offset track to give you a less mechanical feel.

Anyhow - good work :)

Thanks teryeah!

My “rough draft” had the hihat louder, but was mr. roboto extreme! I ended up burying it as much as possible. I understand your suggestion to “double up” the hi hat, but to be honest, don’t know how to technically do what you suggest. I wouldn’t know how to seperate the hihat from the rest of the programmed drums to double track, let alone sync up half speed with full. My ignorance is showing once again!
I will mentally chew on your much appreciated suggestion.

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Record an isolated hihat track @ half the song BPM.
Clone that track & place it on the timeline so that two 1/2speed hihat tracks together sounds like a normal hihat, like the one you already have.
Then lower the volume on the cloned track somewhat, so that the emphasis is on the first track.
The 1 & 3 beats should now be heavier/louder than the 2 & 4 beats.

It’s not exactly a cure for cancer but it should take away some of the Mr Roboto feel.

If you’re feeling adventorous, assign the two hihat tracks to a group and experiment with very light flange and/or chorus.
I haven’t tried this myself but phoo says it’s a good idea and he has an irritating habit of being right about these things :)

Forgive my ignorance, but now you’ve peaked my interest! I’m going to break it down in baby steps.

Program my drum machine with just a hihat version of the song-> record it to N at 1/2 song speed (entering this speed in Ns bpm)-> clone this hihat track and lower volume?

I would then need to double the playback speed to meet the full drum version that would be recorded next? Correct? Don’t know how to do this.

I’m assuming I can drag the solo hihat on the timeline to sync up with the full drum track? Correct? Haven’t ever done this.

If I’m headed in the right direction in my thinking, let me know. If you think you can correct me with my limited knowledge, please do so. If I’m completely lost, I won’t be offended if you give up. (smile)

I should learn N-drums, but midi …

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Quote (harphunt @ Feb. 11 2007,01:14)
Program my drum machine with just a hihat version of the song-> record it to N at 1/2 song speed (entering this speed in Ns bpm)-> clone this hihat track and lower volume?

I would then need to double the playback speed to meet the full drum version that would be recorded next? Correct? Don't know how to do this.

Nope - you're making it more complicated than it needs to be (or I could be explaining myself really badly)

Forget about playback speeds.

Let's say your song's tempo is 120 BPM, just for argument's sake.
Record an isolated hihat track with the drum machine set to 60 BPM (ie 1/2 song speed).
Then clone that track and offset it (slide it to the right on the timeline, use the grid for orientation) so that the two tracks combined make a hihat track @ 120 BPM.

Then mess around with levels/groups/effects.

Comprende?

Use the power of the DAW, buddy :)

Oh jeeez! I get it! Could get wierd trying to just program the hihat on anything but a straight up beat, but worth a try when uninspired.

Thanks!

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You’re welcome :)

Very good song! reminded me of the song “ramblin’ man.” I was probobly just me, but I wanted just a pinch more crunch on the guitar. I’m probobly just too young, but that was my feeling anyway. Anyway, I wouldn’t rerecord them. They’re plenty good. I just wanted a bit more crunch, that’s all. Just personal taste. :)

Thanks “fish”!

I don’t disagree with you. Miking my tube amp would have produced the sound I wanted, but would have produced turmoil with the family! I need to work on dialing better tones all around.

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