I report a guy on another forum

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Mike, Mike, Mike, what were you thinking? I'm actually impressed they called you. that's pretty cool. But really, did you think Lard Vole or whatever his name is really posed a threat? :)

Hey, Bill, don't ask me about US law, I'm a recovering lawyer. :D

Hey Tom,

What happens when lawyers take Viagra?


They get taller...


Mike

I probably shouldn’t suggest this since I am far and away the worst offender, but maybe it’s time we created an adjunct to Godwin’s Law (you know, the one about comparisons to Nazis). I’m thinking something like this:

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As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of it degenerating into lawyer jokes approaches one.
Somehow that sounds oddly familiar ? ...
Trust me - the stuff I say is mild compared to LV.

that’s right, because he is by definition a "hate monger"

we all are!!!

LV has been spewing for years. A threat is “Mike, I’ve got a gun. I know where you live and I’m coming over to shoot you” or “Mike, If you don’t change your way of thinking I’ll make sure you are dead.” If it’s not that specific it’s idle chit-chat. Mr LordV does a pretty good job of staying away from those types of threats. He’s about the same kind of threat as someone else we know and I doubt any of us (very few anyway) really felt threatened by him, or those he considered threatening to him.

…There’s nothing to see…move along…nothing to see…move along…

First this:

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(2) It’s not the mouthy bastards you worry about, it’s the quiet ones. Trust me on this.


Then this:

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Sometimes the monkey kills the turtle.


Jason, you’re scaring me man!! :p :D :p :D :p

TG
"Mike, If you don't change your way of thinking I'll make sure you are dead."
Phoo - and that's exactly what he said this week w/o naming alot of names (he did name Bruce Morgen and Pritchard), or setting a time to do it. He's never gone this far before. I got tired of it, I warned him & he taunted me, so I reported him.

I do consider people like LV potentially dangerous, even though they are mostly blow-hards. He's been ratcheting up his rhetoric since the Schiavo incident also.

I was aware that the FBI might not take any action but I also thought that they might watch this guy, because I do feel he has it in him to kill someone based on idealogic viewpoints.

I did what I did and I'd do it again today if I felt it was necessasry.

I think you did the right thing. If you really felt threatened then it’s a no-brainer in my opinion. It’s not how anyone else reads the posts; it’s how you read them when they are directed at you. We argue here and give you crap about a lot of stuff but I can’t imagine anyone here ever threatening you, or anyone, over any of it.

This “Lord Vulva” dude obviously has issues. People can get so wrapped in their crap only to realize in the end, it REALLY don’t matter. He’ll look back someday and think geez, look at all the time and energy I pissed away… of course if he don’t behave, he may get to think that from behind bars somewhere. Shame really…

TG

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This "Lord Vulva" dude obviously has issues. People can get so wrapped in their crap only to realize in the end, it REALLY don't matter. He'll look back someday and think geez, look at all the time and energy I pissed away...........

Replace "Lord Vulva" with "Midnight Toker" and the story still makes sense!!!

:D :D :D :D :D

Vulva?

That’s some sort of Swedish car isn’t it? ???

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Vulva?

That's some sort of Swedish car isn't it? ???

Grab an anatomy book Ali. Then you'll know what Lord Vulva REALLY is. :D :D

TG

when was the last time anyone held a gun to your head, mike?

you know, even if a person is doing that, they aren’t very likely to kill you.

the term “force of arms” and the general concept behind bearing arms is that you don’t have to use them. the force of possesion of the arms, and the expressed intent that you will use them, is an attempt at a non-lethal control situation.

what i’m trying to say here, is that guns usually are a tool of coercion, not killing.

it’s more likely that he was saying "eventually, we’ll have to use the threat of death to coerce people like you, because you won’t listen to reason."

this is far different from saying "eventually, we will kill people like you for what you believe in."

if that was the case, he’d be more likely to just find you and kill you than to talk about it extensively before hand.

it’s just rhetoric, mike.

but i agree with phoo, if you feel threatened, go ahead and call the FBI. that’s what they are there for. they have the authority and the responsibility to decide if there is a real threat or not. they probably called you to defuse your panic.

one could only hope that the political situation in the US would turn into an arms bearing situation. this might help the “lefties” gain a concrete understanding of what the purpose and use of arms is really about. maybe then they would stop fucking around and intiate actions to actually disarm the nutcase powertripping assholes that run our country and are abusing our military strength. maybe then instead of whining on the internet, or in coffee shops, worrying about thier own asses getting shot, and reverting to the nipplesuckling behaviour of asking the FBI to help you over nothing, they would see and feel the real personal danger of a gun, and be able to comprehend how it feels to the people who are really getting shot and killed by US weaponry all over the world.

you know… i’m not a leftie or a rightie… i think they’re all full of shit, wasting time and effort, and not accomplishing anything, while much of the world outside the US borders continues to suffer because of thier irresponsible behaviour.

Grab an anatomy book Ali. Then you'll know what Lord Vulva REALLY is.

TG



OK, tried that. Checked the index and turned to page 635 as indicated.

But, just some twat staring back at me. :(

But you're right TG, it probably isn't a Swedish car; headlights not permanently on, and it does appear to have ABS brakes (which Swedish cars never have due to their inefficiency in snow and ice and stuff), so, definitely not Swedish.

Mind you, there is a wee hint of blonde hair. ???

(Sorry, indecorous Scots barbarian re-surfacing again. :D)

Hey illium - good to hear from you again!

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it’s more likely that he was saying "eventually, we’ll have to use the threat of death to coerce people like you, because you won’t listen to reason."

this is far different from saying "eventually, we will kill people like you for what you believe in."

I agree that there’s a difference but either way but it’s against the law to threaten someone. Saying the former is enough to set off warning lights with the FBI and intel groups that watch terrorists or right-wing supremacy/terror people like LV. So if the FBI is now watching LV, that would be great in my book because it’s people like him that are really dangerous, not peace-loving liberals like me.

This is a different situation, but there’s another thing about American law that’s unique - it’s all how & what the threatened person feels/thinks. This aspect allows people here to kill people in self-defense that otherwise would be considered murder.

In this incident, I didn’t feel like I was in immediate danger, but what this guy said was indeed a threat, particularly when you put it in the context of everything else he has said. If you have the time, go investigate alt.guitar.amps & see the hate that this guy speaks every day.

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one could only hope that the political situation in the US would turn into an arms bearing situation. this might help the “lefties” gain a concrete understanding of what the purpose and use of arms is really about. maybe then they would stop fucking around and intiate actions to actually disarm the nutcase powertripping assholes that run our country and are abusing our military strength.

Man - I’m not at all sure what you are trying to say here but it doesn’t sound very good to me???
but either way but it's against the law to threaten someone.

It is? :(

How about if you just tell them what you're going to do, is that still legally a threat?

"Hey Jimmy, Ah'm gonna rip your arm aff and beat ye te death with the soggy end!" :D

And then, when you do it, it wasn't a threat, just information dissemination!

This is a different situation, but there's another thing about American law that's unique - it's all how & what the threatened person feels/thinks. This aspect allows people here to kill people in self-defense that otherwise would be considered murder.


Ah, that makes sense; God bless America! :laugh:

um er, Skully what do you think about this threat? I dunno Mulder, looks like a definit X-file to me…tee hee

Anyway I’ve seen guys like the one your describing in real life there Tokey! General militant type reteric they pick up from various “fight the power” type orginizations. Usually people like this join these little sects to find some source of belonging. And often to make up for something that is missing in their own persona. Sometime’s trying to cover up a secret homosexual tendency by over extendeding their masculinity. Perhaps trying to reinsert their manhood (no pun intended) via violence and threats, always refering to there weapon multiple times to make up for a inner or exterior inferiority of some kind, for example…(small penis) tee hee



jerm

Whoo!!! X-Files references!!! Alright!!!

:p :p :p :p :p

Man - I'm not at all sure what you are trying to say here but it doesn't sound very good to me???

don't worry about it. if you don't grok it immediately, it's probably not worth try to explain it.

the US has been blessed by a relatively mild political climate for a long time now. i think this won't last for very much longer.

anyhow, i'm not planning to return to the US. i rather like living in china. hopefully i'll be able to establish myself here, and stay for a long time.

what've you been up to recently?
if you don't grok it immediately

grok?

You're immortal Bob Heinlein! LOL

(in China at least) :D

Or are you just a stranger in an even stranger place Troy? :)