internet access

Hi,
Just installed v4.1 b 1962.
Upon starting, the program tried to access the the internet.
I really hate it when that happens unsollicited.
Then, upon inserting a first effect, vstscan also tried to make outside connections!
I’ve always regarded n-Track as a “clean” application, but this behavior has me completely paranoid.
Can someone tell me what’s going on and how to get rid of this?
Thanks!

Hi hansje:
I installed build 1961 last night… I’m looking at the n-Track desk now… I am connected to my server through a modem and telephone wire… While I’m connected to my server I get an “Error… and n-Track needs to close” screen Then… A Send information report to Mico-Soft window… I did the SEND to MicroSoft 3-4 times and then opened EndITAll utility and closed everything that was opened on the DESK… I opened n-Track again and all is O.K. Or appears so-far…

When I downloaded build 1961 last night and installed it… I got a screen … telling me that NetFramWork v2.0.xx needed to be installed…

I closed the n-Track install and downloaded netframwork v2.0.xx… It takes forever, on a dial-up… but I have it installed now… so-it-says…

Anyway, it looks like End It All fixed the NAG screens for the set-up I have… Well… :O ??? So Far… So Good…

Bill…

Hi Bill,
Thanks for your reply.
I had .NetFramework installed before installing this new n-Track build.
Didn’t get any nag-screens either. I was only alerted by my firewall that n-Track, and later vstscan, were trying to gain web-access.
It has a very stealthy flavour to it and I don’t like it one bit!
H.

I hear you… We… as music creaters don’t like to be “Watched” by any outside EYES… lol… Or whatever you call it… :O ???

haven’t installed 1961 in the studio DAWs yet… I’m just looking so far… But it appears pretty good so far… We’re checking… :O


I’d really like to install it on my '98SE partition… I’m useing build 1516 on that desk… I hesitate installing it on that DESK… Well…
Bill…

It’s pretty common practice nowadays for applications to “phone home” to check if a later version exists.

Block it through your firewall or turn it off in
Preferences–>Options if you don’t want it it to happen.

My version doesn’t seem to contact the internet when I work with vsts. You sure it’s not a plugin phoning home rather than n-Track?

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…or turn it off in Preferences–>Options if you don’t want it it to happen.

That is just what I was looking for. Thanks!

I know it is common practice nowadays for applications to “phone home”, be it for a version check or whatever.
This practice annoys the #### out of me though!
Aw well… maybe I’m just a privacy freak :)

Re: the phoning home of vstscan: I’m pretty sure it is (or was now, thanks to you) n-Track doing that. I’ve used all the plugs in other hosts before and nothing ever tried something from there.

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I know it is common practice nowadays for applications to “phone home”, be it for a version check or whatever.
This practice annoys the #### out of me though!


At least n-Track hasn’t installed a little tray applet or startup group program that sits there and checks like so many other progs do.!!!

What IS the reason for N-track needing this .Net framework download? I’m the same way about my machine talking to the outside world… maybe a bit paranoid… I’ll admit. My fear comes from previous Windows ‘updates’ that have brought on more problems than they were worth!

When you run n-Track, disable your network card. NOTHING will be able to phone home. Better yet, set up a dual-boot system with a stripped down, no network OS and n-Track only. (and your plugins of course.)

TG

Hi:
I just downloaded build 1963 and updated n-Track from build 1961… Everything went flawlesslly… No issues of any kind… Just great… on my set-up…

My setup is an Intel P-111 ASUS CUSL2C with XP Home… installed as the Desk…

However the installed build says 1962… No Big deal…

Bill…

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What IS the reason for N-track needing this .Net framework download? I’m the same way about my machine talking to the outside world… maybe a bit paranoid… I’ll admit. My fear comes from previous Windows ‘updates’ that have brought on more problems than they were worth!


Don’t panic. .NET is nothing to do with the Internet per se. It’s a programming framework - that’s all. Like DirectX - just something to download that the program needs to run.

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Re: the phoning home of vstscan: I’m pretty sure it is (or was now, thanks to you) n-Track doing that. I’ve used all the plugs in other hosts before and nothing ever tried something from there.

VST scan doesn’t do any internet connection. The only connection done by the program is upon startup to check if a new version exists (it just downloads the rss.xml file from the webpage) and when you enter registration codes to check if they have not been been pirated.

Flavio.

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VST scan doesn’t do any internet connection

You are right (of course!).
I found the guilty plugin too. It was opening ports for sending/recieving OSC. And it’s allowed to do that too.
My firewall distinctly reported vst scan as the app trying to access the internet though.
But that is probably because the plug was activated inside vst scan??
Anyway, thanks for you reply. You have completely reassured me.

That is how most apps scan for VST plugs, by loading each one and verifying it. If you ever see Cubase or somethin glike that load, it gives a “Loading plugins” sort of thing like an Adobe app as it goes through each plug. That’s just how VST works.

Hansje - Flavio would certainly accept apologies … :laugh:
Ludo

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Hansje - Flavio would certainly accept apologies …

For what??

Hansje - just for the “thinking” of it … nTrack is as smooth “gelijk een babyvelleke” ! Just a half-way joke !
Welcome to the club.

:;):

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When you run n-Track, disable your network card. NOTHING will be able to phone home. Better yet, set up a dual-boot system with a stripped down, no network OS and n-Track only. (and your plugins of course.)

Ding, ding, ding!

We have a winner, folks!

Don't expect n-Track or any other recording software to work reliably if you've got it running on the same system as the rest of your junk (Internet, Games, Porn, etc...). Dual-boot is the way to go!

:cool:

John,
While I agree with you that using a audio-only configuration is best when recording, there is no reason whatsoever why n-Track, or any other application for that matter, wouldn’t run reliably with network services on.
In fact, since the dawn of OSC, network communication has become a normal feature for audio software.
Network on or off wasn’t really the subject of this thread either.
That was my (and other members as well) annoyance with programs that try unsollicited network access.
I still think that even a version check, like n-Track does, should be off by default.
But ok, i can live with the checkbox in the preferences dialogue.
H.