Link to n-Track Wikie Page

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Hi Posters:
I believe this this has just appeared…

I haven’t noticed IT before…

Bill…

Hey, way cool!

Does anyone know how to suck in stuff from one wiki to another? I thought I saw a way to do that somewhere.
It would be nice to pull all the stuff from the “test n-Track wiki” over here.

Uh oh – I advised Flavio to make login a requirement to edit. Otherwise, once spambots find it, it’ll get filled up with ads for penis enlargement, breast enhancement, viox, porn, etc. We say that on “audiowiki.com” (which is gone now, btw, though the domain name is still registered).

Hi learjeff:
I agree with you, on this… If and When this thing “Takes Off” it’ll become a great reference place for anyone in and around audio…

Mabey, a Prerequisite to use and post on the wiki could be… one has to be a “Current/regular” poster on … and Name the Audio Message Boards that is relivant to being able to post on the wiki…?? well, that might keep the “Spam” from being posted there… Or… would someting like that be too difficult to set-up? Or… does something like that make IT a “Closed Shop” ?

I know you have a lot of material around your set-up that could be used as reference material… If you choose to post IT there… Mabey, one could post a link to related material… if that’s not considered “Spam”… If Flavio agrees… and if those of us have the knowledge and energy/time, an Editing Committee < could be relegated to organize releivant posts…

I don’t think I possess or have the where-fores to “EDIT” or to be an Editor… but I have some ideas… It’s like “Make-Work”… if you know what I mean… A Layman’s layout/knowledge of how to use the wiki to search for what you want to find would be important for me…

There are several guys around the Board that have these skills… but… if they want to get involved… That’s another thing…

I know that Willy, along with others has a lot of material on Acoustic Room Conditioning that could be posted on a wiki page…

Hey… there is so much stuff, that we have, that could be posted on the wiki… Well…

Bill…

Flavio did turn on requiring logins, which is good because it’ll really help avoid spam.

There may not be a trivial way to connect Wiki login to n-Track forum logins, but I may post advice there to please use the same ID in both places, as a courtesy. I’m sure it could be done, but don’t want Flavio to be spending his valuable time programming the Wiki infrastructure!

If anyone knows a simple way to connect ikonBoard logins to Wiki, that would be great – please pipe up. Otherwise, don’t expect anything automatic.

Thanks for that Post learjeff:
Lets hope that IT has a great and seamless beginning…

It ain’t gonna hurt to leave your Footprint over there by logging on…

Bill…

not shure I like it.
I went and logggd in, and when i logged out, and stayed on the page, my IP address shows up. At the top of the page.
Not sure I want that info public.

NO $ale.


jerm :cool:

Hi Jeff and All:
I attempted a post on the wiki… And… as a reply and additional meter changes to a post that you have up there… However, IT doesn’t “word rap”… to a page size… What have I done wrong as to the post I made that doesn’t word rap… or follow the page size convention?

Can someone go over there and set IT up to the way IT should look… Or mabey repost here and suggest an idea on how to fix that?

Bill…

Bill, I’ve fixed your formatting for you - it was because you had used spaces to indent from the left. The Wiki thinks that is a special type of formatting

Checkout the Wiki editing tutorial h e r e

Thanks Mark:
I had a peek at what it looks like now… Am I following the correct protocall…?? If I’d like to add my thoughs/and or suggestions? to the Jeff’s post?

It’s all new to me… I hope he don’t get his firearm out a throw a few vollies of lead over at me… :O :p

I can see it’s really important to try to stay on topic on the wiki… I hope I have the disipline to do that…

Anyway, IT can be edited by those that know better… I hope… ??? :laugh: I’ve registered… and all… but when I went over there to see what you did/edit, IT didn’t recognize my “Handle or Password”.

I hope I didn’t screw it all up… for me. Cause I went and re-registered again… with the same ID and password… ???

So, if I post over there again, I shouldn’t indent the wording on the paragraphs… Is that correct?

Bill…

I’ll go read the page. Meanwhile, better duck and cover, buddy.
:p

I may be pretty vague in my reply to that topic on the wiki board…

I am refering to how the meters respond to the .sng files that are on the Time-Line, in the “Repro Mode”…

To continue the discussion… I’m not able to get the meters to read any figure above the “Zero” db measurment… At or above that reading the meters only say that there is a “Clip” and IT produces a “RED” in the place of an “Actual Numerical Measurment”…

I think that is the jeest of what I mean to have said… ???

Then, haveing said that, I’m not so sure How-or-What resourses are applied to the process of “Scrubbing”… If I didn’t know better I would say all this operation uses some sort of Memory… I don’t think the operation of “Scrubbing” can be streamed from the drives. That, being the case … then ya batter have a bunch of memory and IT better be good stuff… Does “Virtual Memory” come into Play… here??

Bill…

Recording meters will never go over 0. Can’t happen.

Playback meters go over zero if & only if you check “Playback meters anticipate output” in Pref->Options. All of this has little to do with scrubbing – did Flavio add scrubbing to V4?

Hi Jeff:
[QUOTE]Playback meters go over zero if & only if you check “Playback meters anticipate output” in Pref->Options. All of this has little to do with scrubbing – did Flavio add scrubbing to V4? /QUOTE]

I’ve never, if rarely used, the “Playback meters anticipate output” feature or config. n-Track for that appearance.

What I see when that feature is used, is… The audio lags the meter’s appearence by what is approximatly the latency of the tracks on the Time-line by the Streaming of the audio from the drives. Or the audio and meter’s appearance is not in sync. or just out-of-phase…

I do now see that the config. of the meters, with that feature shows the “Overs” in a numeric db value…

If Flavio could do something with the “Codeing” to put the Audio in Phase-or-Sync. with each-other ( when that Box is checked )… in a new build… That would satisify my “Wants”… to have the “Overs” displayed by a numeric, value… :O :;): Cause, the Overs are definately displayed as a value that appears accuately… when that box, is checked… Hey, I never seen that the “Overs” was ever displayed… before… wow… What next???

As much as I know, Flavio has not ventured into “Scrubbing” ?? yet…

And you know… it’s not what you need-or-use, IT’s what you get used to useing… I’ve never used an Editor that had that feature… so I don’t know what IT is… to have IT…

Bill…

Bill you are correct that N does not yet have scrubbing.

I got along fine without it, but recently have been using Tracktoin to do some songs and the scrubbing feature makes editing a whole lot quicker and easier as you can find the point you want in a wav file a lot easier (using your ears instead of your eyes).

Another good use of scrubbing that I read today (but have yet to try) is that if you are EQ’ing you can load up a spectrum analyser and then scrub over the noise you want to eq out to see what it’s frequncy is. Very handy …

Rich

Bill, it is EXACTLY the audio latency. The way to fix it is to reduce the latency.

How I use scrubbing is when touching up timing on MIDI tracks, to see if the MIDI note is coming in too early or too late. I suppose my ears should tell me, but when it’s close but not close enough, and if the tonality is similar, I have a hard time and it would be easier scrubbing slowly – just as we used to do back in the bad old days of tape.

Yes, I know the trick of panning the parts apart, but for some reason that just doesn’t seem to work as well as it used to. Either my ears aren’t as good (likely) or my memory is faulty (also likely).

Hi YOU TWO:
It would be so nice to be able to come up with some ideas to put that latency to work with-in n-Track… For either display of audio or anything that can be imagined… If IT could be fed back into itself somehow… ??? who knows… ??? We all have this creativity with-in us… We should be able to discover something, to use it for… instead of wasteing IT…

Mabey we need to work on the merrits of haveing “Scrubbing” added to n-Track… And to convince Flavio that IT really needs to be code’d into n-Track… Is the “Pitching-of-It” Getting that serious? But, to be able to have a choice in either haveing IT available to use or… not have IT available to use on the Time-line on a particular project… If IT comes down to haveing a shortage of resourses… then just turn IT off… or something like that… If that’s possible to create in the code’ing… Who knows??

Anyway, my P-111 is responding a bit more effencitlly to the build 2056… I’m working on tracking again. Well, some…

When I get into the musical creative mood, I can tollerate little if any technical glitches… Now, that’s different if I’m playing around with something of a technical nature…

Yes… I am unable to see with my glasses on-or-off… at times… So, IT must be getting more difficult for my nervious system to get the “Gray Matter” to wake-up… AND the same thing is happening with my “Ears”…

Mabey I’m just down with some illness… IT would be soo nice if IT would get Better…

Bill…

Scrubbing would be nice. It’s been mentioned a number of times. Since I’d like it, I’ll put up a feature request on the Wiki.

I don’t know what you mean by “putting latency to work”. Latency is never an advantage in itself, it’s a fact of life that’s caused by buffering of data – which is necessary to get the job done efficiently and to keep data output going when the PC is momentarily interrupted to do other tasks (like swapping memory to/from disk). The faster the CPU and the better tuned your system is (including hardware & drivers, plus lotsa other stuff), the less buffering you need and the lower latency you get.

If your system has ASIO drivers, just pick 'em and the latency will automatically get small enough that you won’t notice the delay between meters jumping and hearing the corresponding peak.

If you don’t have ASIO, try installing ASIO4ALL (google to find it). Works great. The only downside to it (or any ASIO driver – true with WDM too I think) is that when one program is using it, no other program can use the same device. So, you can’t fire up your media player while n-Track is sitting there stopped. I think that’s true on all systems but maybe not. (It’s not always the case for WDM because you can turn off “keep devices open”.)

HTH!

Hi Jeff:
What I’m refering to, is… Sense latency is a Fact-of-Life and IT comes with DAW’s at no cost , IT’s cheap and abundent… we need to spend some time to find a way to utilize this free and no charge waste product for audio applications… That’s all…

Recycle IT somehow… ???

Bill…

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Scrubbing would be nice. It’s been mentioned a number of times. Since I’d like it, I’ll put up a feature request on the Wiki.


Yeah, thanks for putting the request up Jeff. I’m one of the people who’s asked for it on several occasions but have sort of given up. My son’s DAW has Tracktion on it with scrub and it’s handy to find little glitches etc, and the exact point for a sensitive edit.