no clipping?
There are several threads around about
recording 32-bit floating point and
experiencing no clipping when driven past 0db.
For example - this thread
32 bit no clip
Anyone had experience recording hot using 32 bit?
you may find that Ns “soft clipper” may be on - it is is +10 may not clip - i have taken N to +16 on some types of music -
left click in output meters - clip - i always have soft clipping and MAX ticked - max stops the clip leds at the top of the meters flashing - with soft clipping on when you co to +DB then the meters are permanently maxed out - when you get the hang of it you can turn the meters off completely as they don’t do anything - you have to learn mix by ear not by meter-
soft clipping is the BEST FEATURE of N - i hope it does not get lost in V6 -
Dr J
ignore the above - had a senior moment -
the link refers to cuebase - what appears to be happening is that cuebase draws its waveforms differently to most other daws -
before that we have to understand that the internal max db level that can be processed with i daw is so high that if that level could be reproduced as actual sound it would destroy the world instantly -
what the person is saying is when using 32bit float the waveform goes past the normal 0db lavel - internally this is possible - if you could see the resulting waveform of two 0db tracks before it was truncated by processing the waveform would be huge compared to a single 0db track, the waveform of 50 x 0db tracks viewed pre-truncation in db terms would be as high as mount everest compared to the single 0db track -
so its an internal problem with cuebase - ask yourself, how can you get an input higher than 0db into a daw without clipping using a soundcard ? UMMM tough one that - how can you get the audio out above 0db without clipping using same soundcard, UMMM - you can do it in the analogue world - digitally ??
remenber its the limit set by the input and out devices that limit the sould level to 0db before the onset of clipping, N can send +24db to the output device but the output device cannot handle it so it clips at any bit level -
Dr J
PS going back to the post above which really belongs here but i cant edit it - using Ns soft clipper alows for a psudo effect of passing the 0db barrier - the output is progressivly reduced (compressed) so whilst remaining at 0bd the audio physicaly sounds louder without clipping - it isnt - but can make a track sound louder, even then there is a limit to what it can do and clipping will happen if the output is pushed to high -
Dr J
So if you mix several tracks at a high level,
you would normally go way over 0db. But
the internals of the DAW auto-scale the output so as
not to clip?
That would seem to indicate that an algorythm is
applied equally to each track to lower the level.
Pobably best to keep all your mix levels from going
red in the first place, since you don’t really know
how this is being handled internally.