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We’ve talked about the answer to that one before. Job suitability? Maybe 35% important. Teaching people to THINK and pursue truth should be foremost IMO.
TG
We’ve talked about the answer to that one before. Job suitability? Maybe 35% important. Teaching people to THINK and pursue truth should be foremost IMO.
TG
To think… good luck… 
(aren’t we a cynical and crabby bunch…)
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Cynical? YEP! Crabby? Nah... lifes too short.
TG
Score one for science.
The ultra conservatives on the Dover School board in PA were voted out of office on Tuesday. These 8 individuals were trying to keep ID to be taught in science class. It seems the public did not agree with them. They were all voted out.
I guess even in conservative York PA, people are not buying that ID is actually science.
Good for them.
Phew - I was worried about that one!
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Well, I am crabby… Not enough sleep.
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Well go to BED!!
Hey. I was just exploring Proteus LE what came with that EMU Production Tools upgrade thingy-ma-bobber deal I got a while back. There’s some cool sounds hidin’ in there! How are you liking EmulatorX? Is it Proteus on steroids or different altogether?
TG
You want the truth…YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Anyone seen my arse lying around? I think I worked it off this week.
Proteus on roids. It is identical software except they crippled a lot of the tweaky stuff in Preteus. Kind alike the difference between the Kontakt player and full version if you are hip to that product.
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| Proteus on roids. It is identical software except they crippled a lot of the tweaky stuff in Preteus. Kind alike the difference between the Kontakt player and full version if you are hip to that product. |
Swell. Thanks for the info. As I progress a little further with the pianner lessons I am starting to explore some of the stuff I already have to see what I can use. Proteus LE has some great sounds in there.
TG
PS Why do I get the feeling that this expedition into the world of keyboards and synthesis is gonna compound the GAS syndrome?
Actually, I wasn’t trying to start another debate, just pointing out that for some Christians at least, science and religion are not mutually incompatible.
Ho hum. 
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| Bubba - you are sort of on the right path but there are also laws & hypotheses in science. However, a theory is pretty high up there in terms of supporting it’s validity. A law being the highest, theory next & hypothesis at the bottom. |
Yet again, you’ve got it wrong Toke.
There is no real difference between a scientific law or a scientific theory. It’s just words.
For example, Einstein’s theories of relativity are more accurate at predicting behaviour in the real world than Newton’s laws of motion and law of universal gravitation.
So in that case, as in many others, a law is certainly not “higher up the ladder of truth”.
However, Newton’s laws are generally more useful, ('cos the maths is so much easier; and even for sending a rocket to the moon, they give a “good enuff” solution.)
These days, the tendency is to use the word “law” when referring to a model (conceptual and/or mathematical), and to use the word “theory” when referring to the “real” world.
But even that’s far from universally true, and the two terms are often used interchangeably.
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I agree with this analysis. If you don’t interpret the bible literally, which I don’t think scholars do, then there’s little incompatibly.
Hey guys, long time no chime,
I was watching a movie on Quantum Physics the other day, and it really sparked alot of interesting thoughts.
The movie demonstrasted how all matter can exisist in two different places at the same time…
And how our minds perceive the information around us, defining our “reality”.
We are just begining to understand how matter can exist and be mostly vacume, containing only minute particles which pop in and out of existence at random, while appearing as solid, liquid, or gas to our senses.
Shurely a entity like God has mastered not only the understanding of matter but also the ability to make matter in any form He wishes.
He is not contrained by our worldly knowlege and limits we have put on ourselves by “scientific principles”–DAM YOU NEWTON!
Our own inability to live in a world that is undefined, limits us from creating our own reality.
FAITH, can move mountains, change matter, ect.
However the more we feel the need to find logical explinations to every event, the less likely we will be able to control the very outcome of such events by pure emotion.
LOVE, is power, pure and unwaivering.
It is our lack of true love, and faith which keeps us in this paradox of daily cause and effect, observation and reaction, rather than us being the action ourselves.
God is the enbodyment of these princibles.
Time, matter, gravity, all not factors in His process.
He speaks it, and Love makes it so.
If only we could open our hearts and minds to this power, we would then see how trivial all our knowlege really is.
keep shinin’
jerm
Hi again Jerm. 
And what you said is basically what T. V. Rev. Dr. George Coyne said.
If there is a God, (and I’m still open-minded about that), then he won’t contradict what our senses, and our common sense tells us.
He won’t demand that we ignore those things that the world tells us, he won’t demand blind faith that contradicts our everyday experiences.
If he’s there, then he’s summat else.
But what that “summat else” is, I wouldn’t even begin to guess.
"I was born a rock,
and as a rock, I died.
I was reborn a mighty oak tree;
but might too, has its season.
Then I was born a beast, and life was good;
and that too, passed away.
And now I am a man:
So what is there to fear?
When once again I die,
I shall be reborn an angel, flying the winds of the heavens.
And then, when that spirit too passes away;
I shall be reborn as something of which no man can even dream…"
Ali
Hey, I just noticed toker’s new (and final?) avatar.
Jerm, why do you #### newton?
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I think it’s more that Newton discovered, or described, the laws god put in place to make the place work. Don’t shoot the mesenger.
i think for any person to be truly educated, they should be taught that there are two schools of thought on this issue. which they prefer to believe is their own choice. to argue over which is correct is pointless because it can never be proven.
Okay… it is simple… Evolution beats ID, ID beats paper, and paper beats evolution…Duh…
And I think “dam n you Newton” has much more to do with someone’s disdain for the torture of high school physics than what Newton actully said… 
Rocks. Don’t forget rocks. A big enough rock can be the end all of any controversy.
TG
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| i think for any person to be truly educated, they should be taught that there are two schools of thought on this issue. which they prefer to believe is their own choice. to argue over which is correct is pointless because it can never be proven. |
Actually, there are more like 20 schools of thought.
or was it 200?
Seventy times seven?