Somebody familiair with the LEM mixer?
Hi again!
I’m using the LEM mixer RD82fx. It works well but I think the recording results could be better (sound quality). Does somebody have a users manual in Dutch? Or does somebody know which input I can use for example the output of the computer (to be able to listen to what’s already recorded -also midi drum track- so I can sing or play with the already recorded tracks to record a new track). I use a EMU 1212m soundcard. On this moment I use the output with the jackplugs and the other side of the wire one single jackplug goes in the line in (just under yhe xrl input). Hope somebody knows the best way to use. Thanks Maria
I think you want to use the “2-track input” and set the “2 track to control room” button in, but not the “2 track to mix” - someone who knows more can jump in and correct me if I’m wrong - info in English here:
http://www.generalmusic.co.uk/products_view.php?model=rd082fx
Limey, a fellow who used to visit here a lot, used to suggest that two separate mixers is the way to go, to avoid cross talk and other problems.
C’mon, fellows, someone jump in and help here!
I’m not really familiar with the mixer, but the problem as I see it is that many entry level mixers don’t really have the flexibility for recording and monitoring.
Before I got my current mixer I had a small 6 channel mixer which I used for recording only. It was a convenient unit to plug various sources in to and to adjust levels/EQ etc. All the monitoring was done in the PC.
My recommendation to Maria would be to do the same… connect the line outs of the mixer directly to the soundcard and just use it for recording. (I think this is what is being done already).
In the PC set the soundcard mixer so that line-in (or whatever) isn’t muted - and then you should be able to hear the playback of the drum track AND the instrument being recorded in the PC.
Level adjustments to the overall output are made at the amp/speakers. Monitoring levels can set by first setting the recording level and then using n-Track’s master volume to adjust the playback level to suit. Then use the amp/speakers volume to turn up/down as needed.
Of course unless your speakers/amp have a headphone socket you will need to unplug the speakers to listen on headphones. Fortunately when my setup was configured like this my amp had a headphone socket.
I now have a much better Soundcraft mixer which has direct outs. It’s great - allows me to record and monitor through the same mixer - in control of everything.
HTH
Mark
| Quote (TomS @ Nov. 04 2005,18:58) |
| I think you want to use the "2-track input" and set the "2 track to control room" button in, but not the "2 track to mix" |
Hi Tom, I tried the 2-track input but then I get sound through the headphones at one site (mono)while Í'm using both inputs (right and left inputs with several plugs)...
Mark, this mixer should be able to do (it worked very good when I use a simple standard onboard soundcard), must be good enough but I have to find out how...
Maybe somebody else knows.
Thanks guys!
Maria
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| Hi Tom, I tried the 2-track input but then I get sound through the headphones at one site (mono)while Í’m using both inputs (right and left inputs with several plugs)… |
Hmm, that makes no sense at all. You have the line out from the soundcard to left and right 2-track input on the mixer, and not, say, right input and right output? I know it’s a silly question…
| Quote (TomS @ Nov. 07 2005,06:46) |
| You have the line out from the soundcard to left and right 2-track input on the mixer, and not, say, right input and right output? I know it's a silly question... |
I tried all possibilities but it what I do it stays mono. And when I do it wrong, like you mentioned I hear the music with low volume. When everything is inserted all right I can hear the music very good and clean but still on one side (mono)
Hi All:
The other day, I had a nice reply all written, to your topic/thread but I had a “Browser/Closeing/Shutting Down” issue and today I forget what I was gonna add in reply to the issue you have…
I have a bunch of running around to do here today… But later-on I’ll have another look at your mixer image and see if I can remember what I was adding to your topic, when this browser closed…
I think, in my reply, it had something to do with the last two mixer stripes… and the 5/6 and7/8 switches on that mixer… I had it all written and I thought it was a good reply to your issue… and then the browser closed… Well…
Bill…
Maria,
I not sure what you are asking. Can you clarify what you are trying to do and where you need help.
Tom’s suggestion should work fine so either you have a faulty mixer, a faulty cable or perhaps a wrong setting on the mixer .
Mark
Mark, on the next page my reply on your question
| Quote (woxnerw @ Nov. 07 2005,08:15) |
| I think, in my reply, it had something to do with the last two mixer stripes… and the 5/6 and7/8 switches on that mixer… |
Bill, Untill now I used the first switch. There is af far as I know just one difference between the first and 5/6 or 7/8. The last switcher are stereo, so I’m afraid it doesn’t make a difference…
| Quote (Mark A @ Nov. 07 2005,08:17) |
| I not sure what you are asking. Can you clarify what you are trying to do and where you need help. |
I use the jackplug-output (2 jackplugs) from the soundcard to the jackplug-line in (one jackplug) of the mixer.
I use the jackplug- line out (2 jackplugs) of the mixer to the jackplug-line in (2 jackplugs) of the souncard.
What I want to do:
-When I record a new track on an exsisting song I can for example sing with the already recorded guitar track.
-To make a miditrack with drums to wave a playback the miditrack and record it immediatly while playing
The problem that appears:
The recorded sound is not clean anymore. The results can be compared with "an ugly reverb" . The cause of it seems to be the used line in and outs, it seems to much, works in a circle...
Ah, the playback is getting into the recording - with some latency - so you get a bad delay effect. Is that the problem? If so, you really might consider a second small mixer for playback only.
| Quote (TomS @ Nov. 07 2005,09:55) |
| Ah, the playback is getting into the recording - with some latency - so you get a bad delay effect. Is that the problem? If so, you really might consider a second small mixer for playback only. |
Hi Tom! It not a real delay, it's more like a reverb. I think for recording a miditrack to a audio it's also a delay maybe. But the "effect" is also hearable when singing or playing guitar. But than the cause can also be , as you say a kind of delay because the mixer is working in a circle. Maybe the delay is so small that that is the reason that it sounds lika a kind of reverb... A second mixer for playback is not an option because I want to record the playback (drums midi to wave). Well, I stay trieing.. In that case I should insert the line out of the second mixer in the line in of the main mixer and then I get the same problem, maybe worse...
Thanks Maria
Yes, I see now. This is exactly what I mentioned in my first post at the start of this topic… you can’t route both input and output through the mixer like this otherwise, as you’ve discovered, you get the output from the soundcard routed via the mixer back into the soundcard. Horrible messy feedback loop.
You need to use two mixers as Tom has suggested, or just use your mixer for controlling the input sources (see my first post), or get a mixer with direct outs.
HTH
Mark