MIDI n-T Chat.

Quote: (marco_N-track @ Dec. 20 2012, 9:34 AM)

Quote: (dontcare @ Dec. 14 2012, 7:24 AM)

I guess a "scene" feature would be nice too,

Selecting "View" on the top menu you can find and open the "Save/Recall selection" window.
n-Track has the possibility of save and recall different interval selections during playback.
It's not properly a scene, but it could be useful to improve looping capability.

Not a bad work around,

only problem was it took two strokes (mouse clicking the # of the saved/added section) and pressing Apply button to trigger each loop end/beginning of the next one.

The ideal set up would be to be able to remotely trigger 1-16 via Midi CC control number or keystroke without also having to send it the apply function command while "looping".

The other terrible thing it does is every time you press "Apply" the timeline zooms way into the next looping section.

It would be better if it would leave the timeline in whatever distance you had it in when you recalled the next Selection.

I'm not having any success going from one Selection to the next while Loop is on.

Eg.

I highlighted and area from 0:00:00~0:02:24, and added it as Selection 1.
Then I highlighted another area 0:05:19~0:07:28 added it as Selection 2.

Then I pressed Loop, and Play on the timeline, Clicked "selection 1" then Apply, it begins looping the first area, now I press "Selection 2" then Apply, instead of it going directly to Selection 2 it plays everything in-between selection 1 and 2, then plays Selection 2 and starts looping it at it's end.

We need some kind of GUI built into the Recall area with at least 16 regions to recall by CC and the ability to force to next selection the play function at the end of the last selection/recall.

Oh, and it wouldn't hurt to do OMNI! ...it's insane trying to switch from track to track in a live situation when you are playing multiple synths on multiple channels and trying to record your creations in Midi!

but I digress...

dontcare :cool:

I hope you all are enjoying your holiday.

I will be back afterward and expect to continue the discussion to it’s proper end.

dontcare :cool:

I guess your holiday runs a bit longer over in the big E. :laugh:

dontcare :cool:

Holiday! I’m not familiar with the concept - I’m either busy or very busy :laugh:

I’ll be making some time over the next week or so to concentrate on this thread.

I appreciate your continued support :)

dontcare :cool:

it’s really frustrating that I cannot make one tempo inside another tempo.

eg, 120bpm, with a loop going along with it at 80bpm.

I can change the overall tempo up or down for the timeline, but not individual tempos within midi track/loops.

if you are running any external analogue hardware synths you would know why this is crucial to be able to do in a looper who’s output controls the triggers.

dontcare :cool:

That sounds interesting, J. Would you expand on your scenario?
What would happen if you exported a midi file from a project at one bpm and re-imported it into one at another?

Quote: (TonyR @ Jan. 11 2013, 9:02 AM)

That sounds interesting, J. Would you expand on your scenario?
What would happen if you exported a midi file from a project at one bpm and re-imported it into one at another?

currently (in V5) it gives a prompt to either keep it's own timing I think or be converted to the timing present in the Ntrack file, if you keep the timing you are importing, all the other Midi tracks already present are also converted to that BPM.

What I end up having to do is record into one Midi file the alternative BPM triggers from an external sequencer, that way the correct BPM goes out as a whole from the main Ntrack file tempo source and my triggers go out at their proper BPM.

the only problem with that is the external sequencers quartz is not always spot on with the computers so it's sometimes difficult to make even measures, it would be a lot better of that could be generated in house.

dontcare :cool:
Quote: (dontcare @ Dec. 21 2012, 5:59 PM)

Quote: (TonyR @ Dec. 20 2012, 4:01 PM)

Quote: (dontcare @ Dec. 20 2012, 8:54 AM)

Quote: (TonyR @ Dec. 19 2012, 5:35 PM)

Nope, all 'in the box'. It's been a prob' on my setup all along. I've got used to pasting smaller quantities, and being fastidious with cursor position with each click.

that is Odd.

I don't use the cursor to paste tho.

I just right click Paste and where ever the timeline is at the time (I usually set it at the beginning of a measure) that is where it paste to.

it sounds like you are using the cursor to highlight the area you want to paste into, is that true?

what are you using system timer or wav timer?

I'm trying to approach this as Spock would

'Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth'



dontcare :cool:

Sorry, J, when I say cursor, I do in fact mean clicking on the time axis at the desired pasting point - but - just to be clear - do you work your midi editing in a piano roll or as a timeline track?

piano roll.

is there any other way?

sorry for the stupid question, but that's always how I have done it.

dontcare :cool:

You can, indeed, manipulate midi in the timeline, ie, drag out copies of a section - but the copies are not pasted to the first in the piano roll so each copy on the timeline has to be selected individually for editing in piano roll which is a similar symptom to my earlier point.
Quote: (TonyR @ Jan. 21 2013, 2:16 PM)

Quote: (dontcare @ Dec. 21 2012, 5:59 PM)

Quote: (TonyR @ Dec. 20 2012, 4:01 PM)

Quote: (dontcare @ Dec. 20 2012, 8:54 AM)

Quote: (TonyR @ Dec. 19 2012, 5:35 PM)

Nope, all 'in the box'. It's been a prob' on my setup all along. I've got used to pasting smaller quantities, and being fastidious with cursor position with each click.

that is Odd.

I don't use the cursor to paste tho.

I just right click Paste and where ever the timeline is at the time (I usually set it at the beginning of a measure) that is where it paste to.

it sounds like you are using the cursor to highlight the area you want to paste into, is that true?

what are you using system timer or wav timer?

I'm trying to approach this as Spock would

'Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth'



dontcare :cool:

Sorry, J, when I say cursor, I do in fact mean clicking on the time axis at the desired pasting point - but - just to be clear - do you work your midi editing in a piano roll or as a timeline track?

piano roll.

is there any other way?

sorry for the stupid question, but that's always how I have done it.

dontcare :cool:

You can, indeed, manipulate midi in the timeline, ie, drag out copies of a section - but the copies are not pasted to the first in the piano roll so each copy on the timeline has to be selected individually for editing in piano roll which is a similar symptom to my earlier point.

aahh!

so you are moving midi parts around in the timeline.

I tried that in Sonar a few times, even dragging and dropping them from other sequencers with mixed results.

sometimes they seemed to go right where I wanted them (at the beginning of a measure) other times they would be off and I'd have to adjust.

I just got used to doing all the editing in the piano roll and haven't had much a problem since.

dontcare :cool:

I don’t, usually, edit midi parts on the time line, but, it is possible, to an extent. But I am trying to nail down a little problem area that could do with some address - ie; timeline not automatically mirroring additional progress to the piano roll.

Quote: (TonyR @ Jan. 21 2013, 6:16 PM)

I don't, usually, edit midi parts on the time line, but, it is possible, to an extent. But I am trying to nail down a little problem area that could do with some address - ie; timeline not automatically mirroring additional progress to the piano roll.

yeah that is weird,

I think I've noticed that once or twice in V5, it's like a blip in the visual UI that comes and goes.

dontcare :cool: