Move files to different drive than n program

Hi everybody there: I’m currently using v. 3.2. I want to free some disk space in the HD where N is installed, so I moved all the files that the program works with (.sng, .wav and .npk) to a phisically different HD unit in my PC, then tried o open a sng. file and crashed, didn’t work, so I had to restore system back. Any ideas if it’s possible some other way?

Hi jazo:

You must have done something incorrectly.
That shouldn’t have happened.


However, anything is possible…



After moving the folder where all the files are…
You should have opened n-Track and gone into preferences/settings…
to where the PATH is… (You’ll see the PATH as the last Dropdown TAB on the settings screen)…
Then browse to where the folder is moved to and that should have given n-Track the place to look /find the files.
AND

by doing that Make sure that the transfer of that folder is the only place where the files are located.
Make sure the folder transfer is a “CUT-and-PASTE”…

to the New Drive…


If you are not sure of doing the procedure, then consider writing the folder that has all the files…
.npk , .sng , and .wav files to a CD before attempting the transfer…
That way you haven’t lost anything.




Open n-Track and start a NEW Song…

Then browse to where the transferred Folder is and open the .sng file that you choose to open…
The tracks should open on the timeline with all the “Saved” configurations…





Bill…

Do u mean browse to the Working directory tab under Path (last tab)?. Right now this tab is blank (temporary files is checked) as it comes on default settings.
If I got u right, I assume first of all I have to move all the files to the drive and folder I wish them to be, and then browse the working directory tab till I find that folder and click OK.
Thanks Bill. I really aprecciate u taking so much time to answer.
:D

Hi jazo:

I hope that fixes the issue you have with n-Track crashing…
Name the folder/project whatever you chose… As you browse to the folder, just confirm with clicking Yes or O.K. Name the next folder/project…
whatever…
Then when you work on whatever project you choose to work on…
Make sure you go back to Settings/Preferences/Path…
and…
re-browse to that Folder/Project, before you save any of your work…




Bill…

I came across a similar problem when using an external portable drive which I use to back up my files.
I would then delete the files on the currently used internal drive to recover the disk space. However I did notice some problems when I would later try to return the the sng file or open it off the external.
When I would open up a sng. file it would say “cannot find [long list of files]” which would basically be every wav. file (since the npk’s are generated on the fly so no need to save them)that are found in the sng file…it then gave me the option to find each of them manually…
Now I was using an external and hooking it up via USB so it was better to return the files to the internal drive than to try and work with them in real time (and add tracks) on the external.

What was happening was as I was returning the files to the internal drive they were being copied to the desktop area…however within the sng. file I was trying to open the files where either kept in “My Documents” or “my Music” whichever of the two directories I was using at the time the songs where originally recorded.

Long story short.
I found that it was better if I took notes on each mix and recorded (on paper) where the files were being saved to (either My Documents or My Music) then when I restore the files at a later date off the external drive I return them to the appropriate area for the sng file to recognize them.
That way I do not have to locate each one of them individually off the desktop (which was for some reason the place file where copied to coming back from the external HD.

I have a suspicion that if jazo copied these files to another drive they are not located in the same file folder (like “my music”) as they were in the original sng. files.
The possible solution? Move the files on the new drive to whatever folder (or similar named folder that they were originally saved to during the recordings… :)
IF they were recorded to “my music” than that is where Ntrack is going to look for them on the new drive.
If it can’t find them…depending on the amount of files included, other CPU issues a processor my be having and…CRASH! :disagree:

I think this is what Wox is talking about as well when he says "Name the folder/project whatever you chose"
The process begins at the begining of the recording process in setting the location and name within the (sng.) of where these files (wav.) will later (even on other drives) be found…

keep shinin’

jerm :cool:

Hi , You could try going File/Move song them browse to your second hard disc. Hopefully that way .wav .sng etc will all get moved together in a way n-track is happy with. There is a copy or move option so to be cautious you could try the copy option then if it works manually delete the originals.

Quote:

Long story short.
I found that it was better if I took notes on each mix and recorded (on paper) where the files were being saved to (either My Documents or My Music) then when I restore the files at a later date off the external drive I return them to the appropriate area for the sng file to recognize them.


In Vista there is a better way. Enable the Snipping Tool in Tablet PC. Or find snippingtool.exe, windows/system32/snippingtool.exe, create a short cut and drag to your desk top.

Use it to capture and save any part or all of your screen to a jpg, png, gif, or html file.

I hope he has Vista. :)

keep shinin’

jerm :cool:

Hi Gents:

I’m back again…


As I browse your replies to the thread I see where you seem to be streaming your files from the desktop…
If that is how your setup and n-Track sees the data/.wav files as you stream your tracks to the timeline…
I wonder if this method places a hefty amount of stress-and-load on your setup and in particular…
your Memory/Ram ????
It seems to me that if you run a bunch of Plug ins on your tracks as well as streaming from your memory you need to have a large amount of memory installed in your computer, to pull all that off…
I believe that the Ram/Memory is a fast way to stream tracks…
but running your Multi-Track editor and every thing else from your Ram can stress your Ram and maybe create Pops-and-Clicks in your audio when you least want to hear Pops-and-Clicks…
when your plugs require a burst of resources…



Maybe some of our computer geeks could comment on this aspect of streaming .wav files/data and the stable operation of Editing Audio and this idea…


If you have a lot of ram maybe this procedure doesn’t become an issue…
as the song progresses on-and-into the mix stage…


Again, maybe, I’m looking at this from the wrong direction…
and I am missing some System Operating principals, as well…
Is this something that could be an issue when Editing Audio on a computer ????



Lets say, your C-Drive and it’s System Buss is used to launch all your applications, including your plugs and other audio utilities…
You don’t want to be streaming all your tracks from that C-Drive…
as well…
If you do…
sooner-or-later you run out of CPU and Mainboard Buss Resources…
I stand corrected…
I don’t think it’s a good idea to stream .wav files from the same Drive and Buss and launch your applications from the C-Drive…
only…
Am I correct?
Even the Ram/Memory is controlled by the C-Drive/Mainboard/Buss as the C-Drive is connected to…
????

Computer Geeks… Set me straight and in the correct direction on these comments…

Bill…

Hey all,

FWIW…here’s how I do my filing.


1)
Create a directory (Song Masters) on the storage disc.
2)
Create a song title folder in the Song Masters directory
3)
Open studio software
4)
Open a New Project
5)
Save project as…(x:\songmasters\song title)
6)
Put everything that has anything to do with that particular song into the song’s folder…(notes, lyrics, chords, etc.)
All of the npk, wav, sng etc will be saved there.

I forget where the preference settings are that tells N where to save the tracks, but I do that at the very beginning of every project.
Only have to do it once and, whenever that song is being worked on, everything saves to that directory and folder.

To move everything to another disc (which I just did recently), I just copied the entire Song Masters directory to the new disc.
Of course, that leads to the plug-in location and some other small issues which are easily taken care of if other folders are also kept in good order (like all plug-ins in ONE location…keep plug-ins that are used in projects).

I’m not at my studio PC now so this is just off the top of my head.
I guess the point is to keep everything in good order and moving stuff later is not that difficult.

@ Bill…the answers to your question(s) could fill a book - in fact, I think they have.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think it matters from where your stream is coming from if you only have ONE drive…The problem arises when you make the CPU go to another physical location to get its stream.
Then the info has to travel down the connecting cabling, through various ports (that often are not up to speed), and then through the main studio drive before it all gets processed…sort of.
I think the simplest rule would be, the shortest distance is the best.
The desktop, a folder on C:, my music, my documents…they are all on the c: drive (unless they have been manually moved), so they all stream from the same location (c: drive)…sort of…

cliff

sorry for the long post…

Many folks have many ways to do this - here is my opinion:
The easiest and I think best method is with the File > Move/rename menu selection in Ntrack. Open the recording (sng file) with Ntrack. Select File > Move/rename. When the dialog box opens you can create a Directory and name it to your preferrence - you can even tell Ntrack to add the name of the Recording (sng file) to the each track. Click Ok and everything related to the recording is put/moved in one place - Sng files and wav files. If you want you can copy instead of move files.
As to house keeping: I find it works for me to create a Music Temp directory and record everything to it. Then I use the File > Move to get all of the recording in a seperate directory appropriately named directory. If anything is left in the Music Temp directory it is usually an aborted recording from the session and I can easily check to see and then delete it or add it to the directory (always a file I have removed from the recroding - an unused track).