version 6
If you like, post your thoughts on v6 here so we can have one long list to review.
It sounds like this version was worth the wait and the upgrade price. That it arrived on schedule is another thought that comes to mind. All good so far.
Maybe its time for N to take off in a number of ways - or do you think 7 will be the lucky number?
no cents
what we need is Flavio to oversee the project and see that it still looks and feels like N, Jorgan of Energy XT2 to do the MIDI and Justin (of R fame) to do the actual coding - and a 7 flying pigs just for good measure -
M.R.
Hi Gents:
I don’t do any MIDI work … yet… with n-Track…
so It’s impossible for me to comment on how n-Track behaves in that domain…
However, in my opinion, the latest builds of v6 seem to be working and sounding pretty stable on the setup I have here…
Thank you, Flavio, for all your hard work and input into the latest builds of n-Track…
Bill…
Quote: (Magic Rabbit @ Aug. 05 2008, 12:30 AM)
what we need is Flavio to oversee the project and see that it still looks and feels like N, Jorgan of Energy XT2 to do the MIDI and Justin (of R fame) to do the actual coding - and a 7 flying pigs just for good measure -
M.R.
Right on Rabbit!
D
i take magic rabbit’s comment to mean v6 is not the total breakthrough that some of us were hoping for.
for me the total breakthrough came with (two) unpleasant names, but i could’nt care less what they call it. it works almost the way i do and thats all i ask for. N v3.3 was/is not too far behind but this new software is so streamlined nothing else comes close. i hope thats the direction N will go for the next version.
no cents
Hey nocents, I’m finding V6 working great for me. I don’t do midi but it covers all that I use it for and more with effortless ease. I’ve had up to 28 tracks overloaded with effects. Both the playback and record meters visible with the track mixer while recording. Zoomed in on an area and HIGHLIGHTED to cut “close up mode” while recording! Still recorded nicely, no problems. I tried to labor it in alot of different ways. I haven’t had a chance to use it with my Delta 1010 yet but I don’t anticipate any problems with that ether.
Flavio, Diogenes and Magic Rabbit are great contributors here but lets face it one can’t please everyone. Thats why you have skins! The “F-11” oddity, and “song stop effects tail off” are things that might need looking into for the long run but are not issues to me in anyway personally.
V6 2351 beta is nice,
Levi
ps nocents, my gps unit refers to exiting as both; entering and leaving a highway! 
pss Flavio, I don’t think I would surrender my scripts to another writer, I sure wouldn’t do that with my songs.
I think M.R.'s point is basically, the mentioned products excel in the areas mentioned. A collaboration or conglomeration of all three might be awesome but unlikely to happen.
Nope. You can’t please everyone!
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The “F-11” oddity, and “song stop effects tail off” are things that might need looking into for the long run
Yeah those are not a big deal, I agree. However, the “long run”… is that weeks, months, years… never? After all, we have been dealing with the infamous envelope latency bug for years… Again, it may not affect some users, but it may worry the bejeebies out of others. Depending on how you work, some may not even KNOW about it!
We all just want n to be the best it can be… that’s all.
D
Quote: (Diogenes @ Aug. 07 2008, 10:47 AM)
After all, we have been dealing with the infamous envelope latency bug for years... Again, it may not affect some users
Hi D,
Envelope latency bug? Do you mean that it's intermitting? I guess I haven't really noticed that one. I do get lags from time to time and just line the parts up a little. But I guess if your a studio and wanting to sell studio time to a client I would be a little worried about that. Have bug reports been sent about that?
I know if more than one person reports on an issue it's gets Flavios attention.
nTrack is fun to work with, fast and logical and dependable. I think Flavio directs this program to musicians more than to Recording Engineers.
I only use volume draws. How do I see this bug?
Levi
Somehow, plugin delay compensation does not take into account envelope automation. If you adjust something on a track with plugins AND envelope automation, your automation moves are out of time by the amount of plugin delay.
D
That sounds like something you should pass on to Flavio. I haven’t noticed it, but my envelopes do not usually involve plug-ins. Are you talking about using automation on the plug-in or on things like volume control when you have a plug-in in use?
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things like volume control when you have a plug-in in use?
Yup.
D
I can clarify this since this is my major issue with ntrack. After I record a track I use the volume automation to take out some parts, noises, breathing etc…I also use automation to …well…automate parts up and down in volume for solos etc…If I use a plugin ANYWHERE (not even on the automated tracks) that has a high latency then the volume automation will be off by the amount of latency from the plugin (don’t tell me about ticking the latency compensation box…I am not a newb…been on Ntrack since 2001)…The only plugins I have that this occurs with are my Waves plugins…not all of them but some of the better ones…The reason this doesn’t efect most users is the plugins they are using have small latencies that make the problem almost unnoticeable. Flavio has been notified about this a number of times both here and via email. Since this is only a problem for a very small percentage of users I am sure it is not high on the fix list. It does, however, make ntrack almost impossible for me to use without resorting to time consuming work arounds…it’s not like I am going to dump my Waves bundle for a 64$ multitrack program…
Ray
This is a LONG standing bug that has lasted across many versions. It really needs to be addressed, and I’m sure it will be, but until then the only workaround it to use your ears. That’s not even close to being easy.
Right!
I do use my ears…the problem is I have ALOT of projects in the 30-40 track range that already have the volume envelopes exactly the way I want them…to redo them by hand/ear would take…a VERY LONG TIME…I could render the tracks individually with the effects off (again…TIME CONSUMING) but there is the problem of rendered tracks not being perfect matches to the original…so I would then have to line them up in extreme zoom…at this point I could be editing tape with a razor blade more quickly 
Ray
Quote: (rsolinski @ Aug. 14 2008, 9:29 PM)
I do use my ears...the problem is I have ALOT of projects in the 30-40 track range that already have the volume envelopes exactly the way I want them..to redo them by hand/ear would take..a VERY LONG TIME..I could render the tracks individually with the effects off (again..TIME CONSUMING) but there is the problem of rendered tracks not being perfect matches to the original..so I would then have to line them up in extreme zoom..at this point I could be editing tape with a razor blade more quickly
Ray
I feel your pain Ray... unfortunately this bug (and a few others) are why some of us "old n-Trackers" HAD to jump ship.
Hang in there and maybe V6 FINAL will fix some of these issues. Until then, I'm a "Reaper-head"...
D
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..to redo them by hand/ear would take..a VERY LONG TIME..
Exactly, and should be unnecessary. which was my point. I rarely use envelopes anymore, except for volume fades that don't matter too much if they are off a little.
This has been on my most-needed-fix-list for years, literally.
I guess the plug-ins I use don’t have much latency. How do you think this probelm could be solved and are you saying it is Not a problem for when using other programs?
Not at all a problem when using other programs. Give another nameless DAW a whirl and you will see what we mean.