Copying all files

all files on to a disk

Please help.
I use version 3.3 pentium 4
How do I copy all of the files that I have recorded and mixed down.

I want these to keep on a disk in case I need to re-mix at a later date.

Thank you
Mark

Download the .pdf manual from the home-page. It’ll tell you what a 'Packed .sng file" is, and how to archive your sessions and files from the sessions for stowage, later use, etc.

Edit: If 3.3 has the packed .sng file!

If not, keep a folder specific to your song for all related files, including the session. Then copy the folder and it’s contents to your burning software.

Personally I would burn every wav. file individually to a disk.

This won’t save your settings how you have things mixed. But you could have all the files in their raw form later to do whatever with.

Then just import them back into Ntrack, or the wav. editor of your choice, and mix once again.

keep shinin’
jerm :cool:

Quote (Sloom @ Jan. 24 2006,20:36)
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If not, keep a folder specific to your song for all related files, including the session. Then copy the folder and it's contents to your burning software.

If you have everything in the same directory, you can move only the project out.

IIRC there is an option to 'move' a song in n-track on the file menu.
It takes the 'sng file (with all your mixing settings) and copy it to the space you specify along with all the wave file associated with it.

HtH

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On my system (ver 3.3):
All of the files for each project is saved in that project’s folder. For example, all of the files for a song called “Number One” are saved in the Folder “Number One 010606”, same for “Number Two 012306”, etc.

I then save these folders on a second drive until I have too many. Then I put them onto a dvd.

When I want to get out an old project, I copy the folder from the dvd to one on my harddrive called “Work Folder”. In Ntrack I open the .sng file in the “Work Folder” and it opens the old project with all of my previous settings. I work on it and start the steps over again.

The most crucial part is the date notation on the saved folder. With it you know which projects of the same song are the most recent.

Sounds like a bunch o’stuff but, I think, its worth it.

cliff
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Thank you Cliff!
That is what I needed to know! Bless you !

Sloom,
I didn’t need someone telling me to download the manual and search from there. Don’t assume everyone is just plain lazy or stupid and is asking a question so they won’t have to do a little legwork. Your response shows that you don’t care enough to help a person in need. It sounds as if you don’t know much about the 3.3 version. In that case, let someone who actually uses that version to give an intelligent response.

Others…
When someone asks a specific question, answer them back as if they know nothing about the situation and use laymens terms. If they know better that’s fine, but if not, you won’t loose them with your acronyms and the fact you may know a little more than them.

Signing off…

That’s a fine way of making friends with people trying to help you.

Oh, and welcome to the forum.

Yes, you can leave your fighting spirit and hostility at the door.

Remember that none of these techniques save your installed effects. This can be a right pain a few months/years down the line when you try to load up an old song and find it’s trying to access a VST or Vsti or Dx effect that no longer exists!

Right, Mark,

so pianoman…if you ever install Ntrack on another system, make sure you also install the plug-ins there.

Vsts and Vstis are easy. Just copy the VST folder onto the CD. DirectX’es are a bit harder. You need to remember to copy the install file for each one.


Mark

Quote (pianoman @ Jan. 25 2006,08:46)
Thank you Cliff!
That is what I needed to know! Bless you !

Sloom,
I didn’t need someone telling me to download the manual and search from there. Don’t assume everyone is just plain lazy or stupid and is asking a question so they won’t have to do a little legwork. Your response shows that you don’t care enough to help a person in need. It sounds as if you don’t know much about the 3.3 version. In that case, let someone who actually uses that version to give an intelligent response.

Others…
When someone asks a specific question, answer them back as if they know nothing about the situation and use laymens terms. If they know better that’s fine, but if not, you won’t loose them with your acronyms and the fact you may know a little more than them.

Signing off…

Well, that’s what I get for not knowing what I’m talking about! Point taken.

And I’ll be double-sure I have it together when I’m answering your question, Pianoman. :p

At least Cliff got blessed. ???

Dave T2

:D

Excellent points here!!!

Thank you once again!

Tried this last night!
It worked just as I wanted!

The main point is to copy “ALL” the files that you feel you will need later. Don’t forget that song file.

Thanks to all for their contributions!

Apologies if I offended anyone. I must watch that.

Sloom…you do indeed know your stuff…

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Others…
When someone asks a specific question, answer them back as if they know nothing about the situation and use laymens terms. If they know better that’s fine, but if not, you won’t loose them with your acronyms and the fact you may know a little more than them.


Um what’s an acronym? I’m a little slow, and not that well educated either… So if you could please not use such complex words when describing other peoples complex words it would really help those of us who don’t know as much about words.

BTW I’ve made the mistake of “thinking” I saved songs in the past, only to find I either burned a coaster, or the actual files I thought I was saving weren’t there. Shure the settings were there, but the WAVE files were not. Hope a didn’t use a nacronymph ther… ???

That’s why I stick by my original suggestion. :laugh:

Let’s just try and think a little bit further ahead here people.
Years go by, and Ntrack has updated umteen times to keep up with the ever advancing technology…IE 64bit motherboard/processor…
And sample frequencies also make advancements…44400~96…and BEYOND!
Now every year as you updated your system you also updated Ntrack.
Just for nastalga you decide to open up one of those projects from Christmas past…only to find your new version and system neither recognizes the song file or the sampling frequency…

What a shame, to bad you didn’t just save the WAVE files individually at the highest sampling frequency.
5 years from now try finding the version of Ntrack your using now…

All’s I’m saying is that if your gonna save your files this way, make shure you save the version of Ntrack your currently using since it will no doupt be obsolete and hard to get, as hardware technology advances.
I’ve been using 2.3 for 7 years now, and all my files do open.
But I can’t count on all my fingers and toes the amount of post I’ve seen over the years from people who did what your gonna do and paid the piper later.

Why not do both?
Save the whole file to save your settings on one disk.
And Save the individual tracks as wav. files on a seperate one.
This way you’ve got all bases covered.


jerm :cool:

Well compared to the majority of the forum participants I feel pretty inept at this so I will go ahead and ask a question that everyone probably can explain quickly. I have done some bone head things and ended up with wave files on the wrong songs.
I figured that one out but what I don’t understand is why I keep ending up with more than one song file. I thought by opening the project with the song file and saving it kept everything under that song file.
I recently tried to clean up the saved wave files to a project that I had burned to cd and thought I had some duplicate wave files and managed to delete half of a rhythm and harp track that I wanted to keep to fool around with later. I do read the manual but still manage to screw up. Any thoughts ?

I would be interested to know what basic saving techniques everyone else uses if it is not too much trouble.

This got real nutty for me at first. I was very confused… but I figure that if you keep things as basic and un-married to a particular protocol (i.e., ‘Packed .sng File’ in n-Track; ‘Session File’ in Cool Edit Pro) as possible, you’ll have your files where you can reach 'em. In other words, save ‘outside the box’.

Every “project” (we’ll call it) I get involved with gets put entirely into a single folder. All the wav files, song files, etc., go into that folder, or it’s sub-folders (which I subsequently create), when I save.

What you have to watch for is when the window comes up that you’re going to save in, there’ll be a drop-down box that says “Save in…” and names a folder, place in your computer, whatever. Make sure you know where you’re saving it! (Now, where did I put those keys…?)

And that’s the point: You don’t necessarily have to depend on a program’s filing features/system to keep your files for you. Take control of that yourself! You want to know where your files are at the ‘end of the day’.

If you have a friend who does any of this kind of work in an office environment, ask him/her to come over and help you get organized. That’s big- your work is worthless if you don’t have it, right?

I used to use disk but that started getting expensive, and they can get damaged…especially when you have a 4 year old duckling runnin’ around. Plus I heard somewhere everytime you transfer a file to disk an back you loose quality…don’t know if it’s true, but nevertheless.


Now I use an external Phantom hardrive. It has 120G storage and it’s portable, hooks up to USB or firewire, I use the USB, only cause I mainly use it too archive, but I’d suggest firewire if your going to use it to work off of. It’s portable and I take it to freinds houses, church, studios, ect. and hook it up wherever I want to share files.
As far as I know it’s like having your original computer files with you, since there’s no burning involved(unless you sit on it too long! lol) no quality is lost.

keep shinin’

jerm

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