I am such an amateur that I don’t know if I’m missing something in Ntrack or not. I record my stuff, mix it down, burn it…and listen to it with my friends. 
My son is attending a University where they use all of the latest top of the line toys (Yamaha Motif, PT, Dig Perf., etc). I keep waiting for him to show me what he can do that I can’t but his projects sound pretty much like mine (though he is a million light years ahead of me with his guitar playing - that is not a software thing). Maybe his is just easier to use to do his projects, I don’t really know. But, I do my stuff “for the price of a few beers”, while his hardware and software is into the thousands of dollars range.
To me, NTrack is the best thing since beer…
Oh, I still use ver 3.3 even though I have ver. 4.x - which I have never tried… The above still pertains…but, like I said, I am such an amateur that I don’t know if I’m missing something in Ntrack or not.
cliff
I said it would be my last post but I lied.
Here’s what gets me Gator.
You buy the program $40 bucks you upgrade to the 24 bit version $29 bucks, you plough away through the various releases with some crashes on the way and some huge CPU usage with certian plugs. You end up praising the program for it’s relative low cost and great features, and dedicated single handed developer but in the meantime you’ve forgotten how much you’ve tweaked your OS to get reasonable performance, the crazy keystrokes you’ve invented that make visual glitches and dissapearing tracks reappear become second nature, you stop using certain plugs and put the blame on them, then you shell out another $29 bucks in hopes to get essentially the same program with the wrinkles ironed out. You soon realize you’ve topped $100 bucks.
You get PO’ed, you buy stripped down “name brand” platform for a little over 100 dollars, you get better performance, your CPU isn’t mysteriously topping out and you wonder why did I go through that grief in the first place.
Just an opinion justified from my own sense of reality.
Stu, folks on Cubase and Cakewalk boards all make the same complaints about their software too.
Anyway, whatever works. I couldn’t afford the other options in 1999 when I first bought n-Track, and now that I can afford it I see no reason to switch.
But I have to add, for those who expect the moon for beer money, that’s just incredible. I wonder if it’s a generational thing - having started doing home recording 30 years ago, when a 4 track reel to reel was outrageous, well, dealing with a few software issues (whether it be in PT or n-T) seems minimal.
Pax, Stu!
StuH,
If you are dissastified with the software and what you consder some major issues (I did not upgrade to 4, I still use 3.3), I feel you should contact Flavio directly and be specific about your issues. Flavio has been known to be upright and responsive in dealing with his software. Maybe you can get some satisfaction from that approach.
Dave T2
Stu…I hear what you are saying…
I guess I’m fortunate to have never had any real issues. I loaded it, it worked and I haven’t messed with it since…guess I’m just lucky.
cliff
Cliff, I think you’re typical. Not that there aren’t bugs and problems, just that most folks get along just fine. LIke Tom says, “YMMV” applies to every DAW as far as I’ve heard. (With the possible exception of ProTools full edition, but for thousands, that’s what you should be able to expect!)
| Quote (TomS @ July 28 2006,10:22) |
| Stu, folks on Cubase and Cakewalk boards all make the same complaints about their software too. Anyway, whatever works. |
You are right Tom some of my comments aren't justified because similar comparrisions pertian to all DAWs not just nTrack. For that I apologize.
Just a little frustrated and over the edge these days, and mole hills are becoming mountains lately. Anyway guys take care hope you don't mind if I come over occassionally and check out your music.
Thanks for all the help you have provided over these past few months.
Pax TomS.
Love ya like a brother
| Quote (StuH @ July 30 2006,00:56) | ||
You are right Tom some of my comments aren't justified because similar comparrisions pertian to all DAWs not just nTrack. For that I apologize. Just a little frustrated and over the edge these days, and mole hills are becoming mountains lately. Anyway guys take care hope you don't mind if I come over occassionally and check out your music. Thanks for all the help you have provided over these past few months. Pax TomS. Love ya like a brother |
Well, it is frustating if you bought 4.x for the new features and had to revert to 3.x to have a stable program. One generally expects a (paid for) upgrade to at least perform as well as the previous version.
Jeff
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Im am quite a bit angry, that version 5 is not free for vers. 4 users, because i have the strong feeling version 4 was just moneymaking. anouncing new (and some really cool) features that never really worked! or something else broke! he should get some betatesters before releasing the new verion instead of taking money for software that doesnt really work! |
I have to agree with this. 4.x never worked acceptably. It should have stayed beta. I wasted time and money and should have stayed with 3.3. I’ve reported silly bugs that were never fixed, but I was told they would be fixed in ‘the next version’, which is 5.x I guess.
F.A. is getting paid by beta testers. This is either smart and crafty way of doing business or just plain wrong.
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Perhaps it is both? There are many of us still thinking that way about Windows - only we pay a lot more for the privilege of learning all the new ‘features’ every time we upgrade to a new version!
'til next time;
tony w
I finally came to the realization that 4.04 build 1811 was as far as my combination of hard drive, soundcard, Ram, and operating system would allow me to go without crashes.
It just is not worth the headaches to have a little different look, frills that just put more load on things that in the great skeem of things dont really make a difference. There are just too many variables that affect n-track. It is hard to turn down a free DL but I still sound the same no matter what version I have.
i upgraded to 4.4 this week but i still can’t record with N-track! … 
Ahhh… build 2099 is version 4.2.1, which is the latest… or am I missing something?
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| hey stu—in an earlier post you threatened to go to Cakewalk. ok—so what are you going to do? are you unhappy with N-track? If you are then why don’t you move on? jus wondering…give me some secrets so i can move on to…
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It looks like you are learning the secret. I just picked up CW Home Studo 4 XL.
What are you using for an audio interface?? And when you try recording or using N do you get any error messages?? Your recording vumeter did you left click on the little red button (correct channel seleted?) Does your audio interface have it’s own little program that needs to be enabled(mixer or some sort of asio interface?)
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| i upgraded to 4.4 this week but i still can't record with N-track! ......
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But to be fair, in your other thread about this you said you couldn't record in Windows Recorder either.
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But to be fair, in your other thread about this you said you couldn't record in Windows Recorder either. |
true----i'm just frustrated. everything is setup in windows till i'm blue in the face....! gonna try another Mic.
Working for a major software development company, I can appreciate the time and resources required to provide new functionality and fix bugs without creating additional ones. This increases exponentially with each new function added. Like you, I also get frustrated when N-Track doesn’t perform up to my expectations, and I make sure that Flavio hears about it.
Overall, I feel Flavio has been receptive to providing new functionality and fixing bugs we identify. N-Track may not be as stable as a product provided by a larger company with a much larger development team. (and a significantly higher price) But for me personally, I feel N-Track is a good value for what it provides.
I don’t plan to immediately upgrade to V5 until I see what new functionality it provides, and I am sure it is fairly stable. $30 for a good upgrade is nothing for the heart of a DAW. I spent that much 2 weeks ago for a pop filter.
If some of our late upgraders get a break on the upgrade cost, good for them. I’m hoping that as many as possible will take advantage of the deal, find the new bugs (as I’m sure there will be some) and feed them back to Flavio. We will all ultimately benefit.
Choice is a great thing. You can chose to upgrade to a newer version of N-Track or not. You can choose to dump N-Track all-together for a competitior’s app. Over the years, I’ve used N-Track and I have had many more positive experiences than negative. So I choose to stay with N-Track.
For those of you moving on, I wish you the best.
-TJ