n-Track Future

Quote: (jeremysdemo @ Mar. 03 2008, 8:29 PM)

Quote: (Diogenes @ Mar. 03 2008, 1:07 PM)

You guys think Flav is totally revamping n from the ground up? I hope the interface keeps the same look and feel with needed enhancements of course, but my real hopes lie in the area of efficiency. The main reason I had to stop using n-Track at around 4.? was because some features I needed came at the expense of lower track counts glitching and popping audio and random crashing.

Here's hopin'... :)

D

Honestly I have experience none of the "popping" or glitzing or crashed with the latest 5 build.

As I said before I am using it with the Firewire interface and it seems to be able to hold it's own.

The only thing I'm dealing with is that the buttons look different and everything is not where I remember it to be in 2.3.

and also as I said ALL of the sng. files I bring in from the other version (2.3) work flawlessly in the latest version.

I noticed the M-audio device had many error reports in forums which included pops and glitches, but they were do to certain chipsets and processors(mostly AMD's)along with integrated firewire.
I do feel fortunate I just happened to get a good board (Asus) with a P4 2.2G which is stable under the Firewire Interface, Ntrack, Audigy, Cool Edit, and Samplitude.

I recorded at least 20 or so tracks in the same sng. with N if not more and not a single issue.

I would like to figure out how to minimize the look of the wav. file since they are HUGE and I have to scroll up and down to see other tracks (they are not that way in the older sng. files I open up)...but other than that not another complaint as of yet.

I see the SPDIF input, along with the Midi ins in Ntracks preferences and one of these days I am going use them!

(soon as I learn how)
:)

keep shinin'

jerm :cool:

That's when a lot of my problems started Jerm. When I started loading up track FX and MIDI driven virtual instruments.

Believe me, if I my patience had not completely ran out, I would STILL be using n-Track.

I am glad it's working well for you and I hope V6 is just awesome... We'll see!

D

Jerm wrote: "I would like to figure out how to minimize the look of the wav. file since they are HUGE and I have to scroll up and down to see other tracks"

Jerm,
Not sure if I understand you correctly, but to minimize the wav. files so they aren’t taking up so much vertical space on your screen, there’s a set of four buttons above the timeline: two are for shrinking/expanding the timeline on the horizontal axis and the other two are for shrinking/expanding on the vertical axis.
IIRC they look like magnifying glasses with + or - signs.
You can also do it with the keyboard (computer that is) but I don’t know the keys … ?
Is this what you meant?

I also wanted to chime-in on the N-track discussion;
I have been very happy with N.
During the infamous version 4. depression, I used Multitrack studio to record and did all my editing in N.
I liked that set up so much that I still do it that way when working on serious stuff.
I am working on a song right now with 22 tracks and most of the tracks have between four and eight effects each … no auxs just put what I want on each track.
I’ve got over 120 effects processors running at once!
I have no problems, BUT my buffering is not at “extra-low” but rather at normal because I’m not recording.
My situation is very simple though as I only record one track at a time.
Even if I was running just N-track, I think I would record in one “song-file” and edit in another. I am a big N-track fan, I really enojy the editing features, N-drums are very useful without a kit handy (or for other sounds/samples) and the guitar amp simulator is WAY cool!

Jeremy regarding minimizing… notice the blue 2 track is minimized.

That should help guys my tracks are much bigger than yours!
and yes it might be genetic. :p

Also I noticed something strange when recording through the Firewire interface.
My old tracks were “stereo” and if I asked to delete one it would delete BOTH left and right side. (they were as it appears in Poppas picture)
Now it seems to record TWO mono tracks or something which I have to delete individually.
When I first set the Firewire device up N was recording two stereo tracks (that is two tracks with both left and right side) the second track however was blank.
since I upgraded to 5. this has not happened but now I have what looks like two separate mono tracks when I press record instead of one stereo.

It’s no real bother since the same product makes it way into the computer, only getting rid of tracks is more time consuming.

There are so many buttons and features on this 5. compared to the 2.3, I keep finding myself accidentally moving things around…where as in the older version things just stayed put (like the top menu bars and icons)
The problem with that for me is if I move something out of view not realizing it I have to turn N of and back on again to get it back since I have no idea where it went! :;):

Hey as long as the proggy works effectively I can deal with the learning curve, it took me a few years to figure out 2.3 and at the end I still do not think I knew how to do everything! :laugh:

Thanks guys for all the help,

keep shinin’

jerm :cool:

Jeremysdamo; under the VU meters (play and record) there is an icon that lokks like a hammer. Click on that icon and you can change the audio settings.

Oh the hammer…OK.

I thought that had something to do with destructive editing there was one in the old version (2.3) that enabled something like that…so I just avoided it.

thanks, this were certainly save me a great deal of time and settle some fears about “clicking” on the wrong thing and doing something that I cannot later reverse.

keep shinin’

jerm :cool:

I feel that version six will not be lean and mean. Reaper has it beat!!! :laugh:

Hard to debate when the mind if fixed on the answer before the facts.

ya REAP whatcha sow…

ya cain’t plant corn and expect tamaterz…

Hmmm…

Don’t come around here no more…

I have had a lot of “issues” with version 5. I moved to Reaper some months back. I may have to give N another try… I have been working with N since version 2 and paid for full versions 5 times. N feels good… feels easy. Last four or five projects with N were very laggy. I am of the belief that less is better and more is trouble (how do we all feel about Windows Vista?). Is N dead? Nah. As long as some folks can use N without major computer farts, it will stay around. It is a very good program even if I ran into major problems with it once or twice. I was lucky. I had no problems with it for many years.

Mike

Hi Doc,

* My first experience with Vista was not a pleasant one.
* I too have moved to Reaper until Flavio gets n-Track sorted out. (maybe)
* n is not dead. It’s just taking a nap! :)

Great to see you around again. I hope you and yours are doing well!

D

Well another month gone by and N is falling like a rock. Reaper and other DAW’s are leaving N in the dust. A real shame,but nothing is forever. :)

That was such a useful comment. Care to share any more?

Quote: (archon @ Apr. 22 2008, 9:00 AM)

Well another month gone by and N is falling like a rock.
Reaper and other DAW's are leaving N in the dust.
A real shame,but nothing is forever.
:)

Er! Is there any point to these posts? If you don't like don't use it...no problem!

I like it, it's served me for 4 years now and it does what I need.

Ian
Quote: (phoo @ Apr. 22 2008, 9:42 AM)

That was such a useful comment. Care to share any more?

ROFL!! With all that has been said, we needed that. Thanks Phoo.

I don't think that n-Track will ever die. Gracious, there are some people that are still using Wordperfect and 123... But it does need fixin... Unfortunately, I am another one who has had to sidestep to the "other" DAW temporarily until n-Track gets the various issues resolved and requirements added. I think many of us are in that boat.

Paul

Wow, it’s been a long time since I logged into the N forum. Looks like the same topics are being discussed.

I don’t want to beat a dead horse, and what follows is “only my opinion” (and I certainly won’t argue or dispute anybody who differs)…but the bottom line for me is that N-Track is strictly a program for beginners who are trying to learn about DAW’s. I started w/ N back in the v.2 days and actually had some good times with it, despite the bugs, crashes, errors, lost files, etc etc. When I finally got serious about recording it quickly became apparent that N just wasn’t up to snuff. Bought the new versions up to v.4, but when 5 came out I said enough’s enough.
My solution, which has worked very well for me for the last year and a half or so, was to buy a Mac G4, Digi001, and Protools. Before the flames start, just remember that I said this is JUST MY OPINION AND EXPERIENCES.
The learning curve was a little steep, but since I’ve made the switch I haven’t had one problem like I was experiencing with N on a very regular basis.
It’s kind of sad, in a way. N opened my up to the world of digital recording and I’ve got fond memories or it. But for me, if I ever wanted to get out of the “beginner stage” I had to move on. I grew, and what I needed from my DAW grew too. N just wasn’t able to provide that for me.

gunner

I can only reiterate that n-Track is alive and well and certainly not dead. Version 6.0 should be released within 2 to 3 months.
I’ve changed the topic title as this topic seems to always stay at the top of the forum and the title might misinform people who only give a quick view at the forum topics.

Flavio.



Excellent. Thanks for the update Flavio and a good decision to change the thread title.

Quote: (Flavio Antonioli @ Apr. 22 2008, 2:02 PM)

I can only reiterate that n-Track is alive and well and certainly not dead. Version 6.0 should be released within 2 to 3 months.
I've changed the topic title as this topic seems to always stay at the top of the forum and the title might misinform people who only give a quick view at the forum topics.

Flavio.

I know I anxiously await the unveiling... along with many, many more I am sure.

Best of luck to you Flavio! (Now... get back to WORK!) :laugh:

D