Recorded tracks playback not working

Hi everybody.

I have a new problem. I installed the 6.0.9 version of this program and now everytime I record a track and then try to play it back it doesn’t work! Nothing comes out. The backing track recorded with a previous version I had installed sounds normal. The ‘live’ thingie also shows that the mic is working and the waveform displays normally but it doesn’t playback! This is really frustrating. Is it possible I have enabled/disabled some setting? Something like this has never happened before. Everytime I try a new version of n- track some new annoying problem comes up.
The playback worked yesterday so I don’t know what happened. I tried reinstalling all the related programs and drivers. There was one weird problam even when it was working. I don’t think i can explain it but somehow it felt like the tracks I recorded sounded really abnormallu quiet when compared to the backing tracks recorded with the previous version. I don’t have any automated volume thingies on.

I just noticed that if I start a new song project and try to record it records AND plays back fine BUT if I try to add a new (vocal) track to a existing song project the file does not playback!

What was your older version?

The only thing I can think of without knowing that is possible issue with Bit rates? 16 bit, 24 bit, since older versions ran on 16 bit you could get a similar problem mixing files from two different versions that are in different bit rates if your new set up is recording in 24bit and the older
NTRACK file are in 16, the program will play back the older 16bit and you will hear them if that is the default playback setting but you will not hear the new 24bit wav.s, unless you are in a new file and everything is the SAME.

To be clear I am not talking about the wav. files being 16 or 24 bit, but the NTRACK saved files, sng’s I think they are.

keep shinin

jerm :cool:

Quote: (jeremysdemo @ Apr. 22 2010, 11:35 AM)

What was your older version?

The only thing I can think of without knowing that is possible issue with Bit rates? 16 bit, 24 bit, since older versions ran on 16 bit you could get a similar problem mixing files from two different versions that are in different bit rates if your new set up is recording in 24bit and the older
NTRACK file are in 16, the program will play back the older 16bit and you will hear them if that is the default playback setting but you will not hear the new 24bit wav.s, unless you are in a new file and everything is the SAME.

To be clear I am not talking about the wav. files being 16 or 24 bit, but the NTRACK saved files, sng's I think they are.

keep shinin

jerm
:cool:

Hi.

The last version I was using was 6.0.6. I have been doing all recording in 24 Bits mode for years. I doubt that is the reason unless if it's possible I have somehow screwed up the bit rates of the song files. I recently had to run multiple anti-spyware softwares etc. to clean up my computer. But I have since re-installed my n-track and my soundcard drivers. I don't think the softwares had any effect on the song files on my drive. Weird problem and annoying!

Oh, I forgot: the program freezes almost everytime I start it. It just freezes and says ‘not responding’…

Is it possible for you to go back to 6.0.6?

That’s what I would do to see if you could at the least go back to how it used to work.

You say you had problems on the puter and had to reinstall some stuff…I remember once re-installing Windows XP on a system and somehow that changed my audio settings within WINDOWS, vary similar symptoms you are describing, lower volume on tracks, freezing, trouble with playback.

My solution ended up having something to do with NET framework or something that got wiped out along with an essential
dll file for audio (which was why I reloaded the O.S).

Also are you making sure to use the ASIO for ALL drivers?

keep shinin

jerm
:cool:

If the program is freezing I hope you are sending a dump file to Flavio. He can look at the dump file and get back to you with what the problem may be.

I would check to see if any of the drivers for your computer have been updaed lately. Jeremy’s suggestion to try the earlier version and see if the problem still shows will at least establish if it is the newer version. Keep us posted. wish I could help more.
Bax

Hi guys. I’m not sure if this is relevent, but I had many of the same prob’s as Pumpingman including the freezes? It turned out to be down to ‘one’ song.
Just a thought.

And another problem: I again reinstalled n- track and my ASIO driver and managed to load the program without it freezing. But now when I save a song file it doesn’t list under ‘file’ in the menu. None of the song files are there after I save them/open them. Of course it is not a major problem to go to everytime to the source foler and open the song file but it’s a bit annoying and a sign that something is wrong with the application. Or does this have to do something with a setting or something?

Quote: (Pumpingman @ Apr. 23 2010, 4:58 AM)

And another problem: I again reinstalled n- track and my ASIO driver and managed to load the program without it freezing. But now when I save a song file it doesn't list under 'file' in the menu. None of the song files are there after I save them/open them. Of course it is not a major problem to go to everytime to the source foler and open the song file but it's a bit annoying and a sign that something is wrong with the application. Or does this have to do something with a setting or something?

This sounds like a file association problem.....like if you open a new kind of file on a computer and it says there is no program associated with it Windows will ask "would you like to chose a program to open these files" then once you chose one ALL the files on the computer that are in that format are now associated with that program.....

For instance, if you try to open a sng. (ntrack) song file with Windows Media player in the above scenario, afterward every Ntrack file will have the Windows Media logo over it so you will no longer SEE any NTRack looking files (they are still their they just will look different).

I had a lot of the same problems you are describing a few years back just before my hardrive took a crapper......my best recommendation to myself would have been to back up all my files.....after that there are a few things you could do to try and save the drive, you can reformat the drive, I know that is a bit drastic however as long as you have all your files backed up you have nothing to loose, and it would be starting from a clean slate.
Then you could start over with a Windows Lite install, and the least amount of other programs as possible.


I forget what you do if you want to re-associate the Ntrack files with Ntrack )(make them look like they used to)....hopefully someone will chime in on that.


keep shinin

jerm :cool:

It started to freeze up again. After every re-install the program works once but after reboot it starts to freeze again when I start the program. It seems to have somekind of a problem with the ASIO driver; the program freezes and the speakers start to make that lagging sound, then it says not responding and after a while it starts say things like ‘soundcard already in use’ adn stuff like that. It might work with WDM drivers. The registry must be somehow messed up after running all those anti-spyware thingies and there must be something confusing the link between the driver and the software. Is there a way to clean up all possible registry conflicts? I have two OS on my hard drive, the other windows is strictly for n- track. There is practically nothing else on it. Therefore I can’t figure out what might be causing the conflict or whatever. I would rather not format the whole drive since there’s three years worth of all sorts of stuff on there.

Or might the problem be that the latest versiob of n- track is not fully supporting my ASIO driver? I am running an Aardvard Q10 with the latest drivers from few years back!

About the freezing when you get nTrack open check to see if you don’t have more than one playback devices highlighted.
Settings, audio devices, audio playback devices on the left colum.

About adding the songname to the saved song list under file.
That only happens when you ‘Save As’.
:agree: hang in there I’ve had trouble choosing driver types with the latest build too.

Quote: (Levi @ Apr. 23 2010, 3:56 PM)

About the freezing when you get nTrack open check to see if you don't have more than one playback devices highlighted.
Settings, audio devices, audio playback devices on the left colum.

About adding the songname to the saved song list under file.
That only happens when you 'Save As'.
:agree: hang in there
I've had trouble choosing driver types with the latest build too.

Thanks for replying but I've been using this program for years and never before have I had these problems quite like this. It doesn't matter if I 'save as' still the songnames don't appear under file.

It's either that the software doesn't properly support my ASIO driver (but it works for a while after every re-install) or something in windows or in the registry RELATED to n- track or the ASIO driver got screwed up with the antivirus and anti-spyware applications I ran to clean my hard drive from infections. Though I don't see why it would make a difference even after re-isntalling n- track and the ASIO driver?
Quote: (Pumpingman @ Apr. 23 2010, 4:27 PM)

Quote: (Levi @ Apr. 23 2010, 3:56 PM)

About the freezing when you get nTrack open check to see if you don't have more than one playback devices highlighted. Settings, audio devices, audio playback devices on the left colum.

About adding the songname to the saved song list under file. That only happens when you 'Save As'.
:agree: hang in there I've had trouble choosing driver types with the latest build too.

Thanks for replying but I've been using this program for years and never before have I had these problems quite like this. It doesn't matter if I 'save as' still the songnames don't appear under file.

It's either that the software doesn't properly support my ASIO driver (but it works for a while after every re-install) or something in windows or in the registry RELATED to n- track or the ASIO driver got screwed up with the antivirus and anti-spyware applications I ran to clean my hard drive from infections. Though I don't see why it would make a difference even after re-isntalling n- track and the ASIO driver?

Just a thought, but have tried doing a system restore? Take it back as far as you can. Maybe this would help.

PACO
Quote: (Paco572 @ Apr. 23 2010, 4:52 PM)

Quote: (Pumpingman @ Apr. 23 2010, 4:27 PM)

Quote: (Levi @ Apr. 23 2010, 3:56 PM)

About the freezing when you get nTrack open check to see if you don't have more than one playback devices highlighted.
Settings, audio devices, audio playback devices on the left colum.

About adding the songname to the saved song list under file.
That only happens when you 'Save As'.
:agree: hang in there
I've had trouble choosing driver types with the latest build too.

Thanks for replying but I've been using this program for years and never before have I had these problems quite like this. It doesn't matter if I 'save as' still the songnames don't appear under file.

It's either that the software doesn't properly support my ASIO driver (but it works for a while after every re-install) or something in windows or in the registry RELATED to n- track or the ASIO driver got screwed up with the antivirus and anti-spyware applications I ran to clean my hard drive from infections. Though I don't see why it would make a difference even after re-isntalling n- track and the ASIO driver?

Just a thought, but have tried doing a system restore? Take it back as far as you can. Maybe this would help.

PACO

Unfortunately I have system restore turned off. :( I figured I would never needed it since I only use n- track on this windows. I realised that I ran all the anti-spyware softwares on my other windows not this one which has n- track installed. However, after the clean up when I reloaded this other windows which has n- track on it all had changed; the desktop, the whole theme had changed from classic to xp, media player wasn't installed...

I'm still trying not to have to format my c: drive and possible find a solution :)

Hi.
All the usual suspects are worth a nudge.
Have you tried:- a ‘clean’ install of n-T, turning everything off that might be nagging for your sound card, (system sounds), setting the Win audio to match those in n-T, some devises can multi-host, but might need channel config to avoid conflict,

As you’re only running n-T on that machine, it’s probably worth an XP rebuild.

Do it :laugh:

Yes, you’ll have to be careful when operating a partition that is a dual boot configuration. The anti-spyware or even some reg cleaners will see the doubled up reg info and will not treat the partition as “Hands-off, I’m another OS, go away.” When the OS is on another drive you can always be sure this sort of thing won’t happen. There is one possibility though, did you have system restore enabled on the other OS?

Other idea: Place the windows CD for the OS crippled. Start PC up and allow it boot off the windows disk and select repair if the option becomes available. Not all installs allow the option to repair but many do and it’s worth a try. It will correct all the missing or corrupt reg entries and won’t reinstall windows but will keep your current configuration. You might even have to install SP3 as well after doing it, but thats easy to find out after your done.
Best of Luck,


PACO

Quote: (TonyR @ Apr. 23 2010, 5:59 PM)

a 'clean' install of n-T,

I can confirm that the latest build of nTrack DOES save recent songs saved under the file menu. So those issues are at your end.
I would do what Tony's suggesting. "Do a clean install"
Uninstall n from the control panel, do regedit and remove any instances of ntrack from the registry before reinstalling. (can do a search in regedit under edit I believe) :peace: All at your own risk of course. Then reinstall.
Sorry that your having problems, gluck

Another thing I have done from time to time when the Windows XP operating system was acting up ( The restore never seems to work when you really need it).
I reinstalling N-Track doesn’t work, If windows repair doe not work, Reinstall Windows over the previous/ installed version you have. Unfortunately, if you have not saved the service packs, you may get a notice “you are trying to install an older version” and The good people at MS have fixed it so that you cannot do that - you will be forced to reinstall everything. So, if you end up having to reinstall, make a pack up of the operating system with SP 3 installed.
What a drag!
Bax