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And before the Dead Sea Scrolls (written in 200-100BC) there were? … not to mention they were written by the Essenes… they were a group that sprung up in late Hellenistic/early Roman times… therefore they were yet another filter 1000 years after the fact. The Essenes didn’t agree with what one might consider main stream Judaism of the time and most likely would have edited the texts to their own wants and beliefs.
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Wether or not they agreed with God’s word or not, they were only charged with copying it word for word. Any other meddling not only went against thier own beliefs but was a serious offence.
Sure each teacher of the Law had their own interpretation and were at liberty to use it, but that never changed the transcribed words.
There were enough copies in those days to catch any such ad lib or alterations and behead or stone the guilty parties…tee hee
I will give you, that we have a bias Christian text in the modern Bible, (depending on which version the pedilum swings) but not that the original keepers of the Law and Prophets made a habit of “changing” texts.
I think if the text was that off, the Son of God (Jesus) would have spoke up.
He quoted many of these text through out His years on earth. And helped the Pharisees in their many mis-interpretations.
Would not God point out and correct the words that were not His?
He certainly had no problem correcting the religious leaders of His times interpretations.
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| The OT we have today is hardly what was written 3000 years ago |
I should hope not, especially when the beginning of the OT was written much early than that. Only off by 600 years though, a meer plash in the bucket in time pools.
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| especially on the kingdom of Israel |
Now the 3000 years ago context starts to come into play, if by “kingdom” you mean a group with a king, Saul. When Isreal changed from being a theocracy led by wise religious leaders to having one ruler. Something the Jews wanted so that they could be more like the other surrounding cultures…here your Assyrians come to mind.(BIG MISTAKE IMHO).
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| Therefore it was edited to appease local customs, fit in with whatever sort of local religion existed, etc |
I don’t get where you are finding this word “editing” as if it was common place among transcribers. There is no evidence of any of the original Levitical law being edited. Even the thought of such an accusation would offend a Rabbi to this day, let alone one of the time period.
Many writers wrote their own books, many of which were more historical and never considered scripture, therefor were never included in any religious context accept as references. These books were often changed, since they held no special interest or claim of divine origin, therefor were not subject to the same scrutiny.
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| Read some history my man |
That’s the thing, for the Jewish people these book your reffering to are their history.
I mean there are other references that collaborate some of the stories, like the Egyptian accounts of Exodus. Althought the Biblical accounts of that event put it in the 14th century many archeologist and Egyptian scholars would place it in the 1500-50 BC area. That’s if the two account are one and the same event.
History indeed, I would like to read something anything, you have to substantiate your claims.
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| all the political goings on in pre-Roman/Greek times under the Assyrians, Babylonians, etc |
Yep there was alot of political goins ons under the Babylonians, many false prophets, false books, a time of great trials and tribulation for the Jewish people.
So this was the time you think something happened that convinced the Jewish leaders to “change” God’s word?
Even as Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel pleaded with the people and exposed the false prophets of that day? Not really seeing the evidence of that movement having succeeded in it’s rebellion or it’s desire to change the law.
But hey, I’m open minded enough to read any proof you may have of their success or of conflicting text from that period, it’s not impossible.
You see it’s not as easy as changing one document. These things were copied in numbers and distributed to ensure acurracy. If there had been discrepancies they would have been found as later copies wouldn’t have matched.
Ok so it was a primitive system, but in this aspect effective none the less.
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| Deuteronmy is a great example. It was most likely written as a response/argument to the other laws in Torah as the Jew were not in agreement as to what the law was |
"Deuteronomy" to my knowledge was written by Moses. Not in a responce to anything but as an acurrate account of the journey of His people. Im not sure who wrote “Deuteronmy” since it’s not in my Bible, and can’t seem to find a reference to it in Jewish Antiquities either. Maybe I’m not looking in the right place, the Pentateuch perhaps contains this book?
By the end Deuteronomy all of the generation who originally received God’s Law had passed away with the exeption of Moses, Joshua, And Caleb. So who excatly came beyond the grave and made the modifications you say of the text? Quiet a feat indeed if it was accomplished.
They’re mostly the last words of a dying man, (Moses). I doubt took it upon Himself to change anything God said, especially after it was he who pleaded with God on the mountain to not destroy ALL of the others during that whole golden idol thang.
If any book that Moses authored would be in question for me it would be the earlier books of Genesis. They were not first hand accounts and seem to have some elements of Jewish folklore and word of mouth geneology. Although that claim is purly 21st century opinionated babble on my part.
Let’s make a distinction between, editing, translating, and re-writting here.
Therfor, we will not make the mistake of calling a jack a spade.
keep shinin’
jerm
